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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: Richard Simon
Take a look at this for only $4000. |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Richard, I wouldn't pay $100 for that. But maybe the asking price is just a pie in the sky number? Like some of the ebay BIN prices. |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: stefan
As a dealer in these type of cards i can say that this card would sell in the 1500-2000 area. I would never buy to keep only to resell, but it ticks me off about all of the jerseys, bats and assorted Memorabilia that has been ruined to make these cards. If the pieces are even real that is. |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: Joe D.
My son and I started a football 'fabric-card' collection. |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: Anthony S.
Gosh, imagine if the card contained a fleck of the cross he wore around his neck... |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: Dan McCarthy
When I was fifteen I wanted a cut auto like that incredibly badly... until I smartened up and realized that a Lou Boudreau cut is about $40 and you can get a better looking autograph of him for two bucks. |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: andy becker
darn joe, |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: Richard Simon
Jeff - that is not one of those pie in the sky BIN prices... these cards are all listed at prices like that. A George Washington was recently listed for $75,000!!!! |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: DJ
I think it's the same sucker that buys $50 packs and spends $$$$ on new stuff. I watch the Upper Deck Mystery Cuts closely on eBay and the Buy It Now people are out of their minds. $1500 for a Joe Barbara? $325 for Janet Leigh? $855 for a clipped trading card signature of Red Grange? If the Barbara and the Leigh weren't housed and certified by Upper Deck, the would sell for $10-15 tops. That Robinson without a certification is $500 at the most in that size and quality. |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
The Robinson cut should retail for no more than $300, and it would be a tough sell to an average collector. Most people prefer a whole signature! |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: Sean C
The market for Jackie Robinson signed cut cards has been getting more and more expensive as of late. As noted in this thread from the CU boards: |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: barrysloate
I've brought this up before but would still like to get some professional opinions: |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: Justin
Where did Upper Deck get 147 "authentic" Jackie Robinson cut sigs? |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
Barry, |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: barrysloate
Thanks Jodi, and I realize it has some level of authenticity. But let's say Cartwright wrote the following on a piece of paper: |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
I consider those two separate signatures. Chances are they won't be written with the same panache that Cartwright reserved for his autograph, but it goes without saying that these are holographic samples of Cartwright spelling out his name. |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: Anthony S.
Personally, my signature looks like someone shot me halfway through it. 17 letters combined for a first and last name gets a little old after a while. However, when composing the main text of a letter my penmanship is much clearer. I could definitely see someone writing there name differently in the main text of a letter as opposed to their signature. But then again 19th century penmanship as a whole tends to be much more elegant. There weren't as many shortcuts (typing, long distance phone calls, etc). |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: barrysloate
Fair enough. I had a little problem with it conceptually (I also had a problem with the fact that the documents were cut up and destroyed), but I accept others' opinions. |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: Richard Simon
Justin - there are a lot of Jackie Robinson signed checks out there. |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: keyway
I like the card where the sig. has been cut off of a full check. Now on a card it sells for 4 or 5 times what the full check would bring. I just can't understand what people are thinking. Frank |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: barrysloate
Jodi- I just thought of another angle. What we have in the case of Cartwright is the lucky coincidence that all the ancestors shared the same first name. Using my last example what if he instead wrote: |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: Richard Simon
"(I also had a problem with the fact that the documents were cut up and destroyed)" |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: DJ
What's worst than checks is when they clip a Gold Hall Of Plaque. I saw one on eBay of Al Lopez that was about an inch by an inch and it looked stupid. As stupid as that Red Grange that I mentioned above, where they clipped a card triangularily and consider that a price for someone. |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: Steve
After all it is a 1/1! |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: peter ullman
I only collect the kind that were inserted in tobacco and candy packages almost 100 years ago. |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: Mark Evans
I continue to be baffled by the apparent value of new items (like inserts) that are in short supply due solely to the limited nature of the issue, as opposed to the passage of time. I can't imagine that these items will retain their value over time. |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: Dave Williams
Here is a link to the PSA board, where Topps cut up a document where Thurman Munson signed a contract, listing his wife's name, and all the "Munson" words were cut out, put into a Topps card, and called a Thurman Munson autograph card. All you can see is a scraggly "Munson". |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: Fred C
Holy crap, who'd pay $4K for a cut auto let alone $1.5K for that same cut? You can pick up an entire check for half that price. If some of these companies were smart they would offer a service called "make your own signature card" and charge $750 to have a signature authenticated by one of the better authenticators (though I think they're all full of crap) and then put it on a card for you. |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Richard, all I can tell you is the epiphany I had the other late night while tossing and turning in bed with the flu and flipping through the channels for anything to watch. I stumbled upon a video of a 1970 Who concert at the Isle of Wright -- one of the most incredible concert videos I've ever seen. After watching that, I continued flipping until I landed on this insane reality show I had never previously heard of: a bunch of NYC cows whining about money, their fat asses and their dumb husbands -- The Real Housewives of NYC. And it hit me, and I'm not sure it was my fever talking: Western Civilization as we know it is seriously in decline. That Jackie Robinson card is further proof. |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: marshall barkman
I used to deal in very high end game used and rookie cards of the modern era. The people who buy and trade these cards are generally young and love to gamble. I know a kid in Atlanta Ga who used to buy 10 to 20 cases of certain products looking for a big hit and if he got it then dump the rest of the cases and boxes. |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: marshall barkman
Lichtman...i read your post and you are killing me. I nearly spit up my drink with the New York housewife line. Hilarious. |
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OT: Does Anyone Here Collect Those Multi Thousand $$ Inserts?
Posted By: Richard Simon
Jeff, I think anyone who thinks of collecting these cards should listen to The Who,,,, "Won't Get Fooled Again", their best song IMO. Maybe they will self educate themselves and stop this foolishness, but I doubt it. |
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