Hooker t209

[cfc1909]

can anyone show me a scan of t209 Hooker?

thanks
Jim

[sgbernard]

Jim, this isn't mine, but I have a pictures database. Don't know who actually owns it.

Gotta say, that's not the most attractive hooker.

[cfc1909]

Thanks Seth

I was just wondering if the picture matched the T210,e222,t206-not.

I think I will still try and find one.

[sgbernard]

Baseballreference has a couple of Hookers from this period, but Buck Hooker (the T206 subject) is the only one with much attachment to the southern leagues--he was born in VA. He played a bitter of major league ball with Cincinnati before bouncing around the southern leagues, and if I'm not mistaken, he's one of the few fellows to appear as both a T206 and a T209. The familiarity between the card I showed and this T206 (also not mine, sorry!) is there. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can weigh in?

[bbcard1]

I googled "Hooker" and got a lot of results, just not the one you are looking for.

[Brian Weisner]

Hi Seth,
That "Hooker" may not be pretty... but it's mine...

Be well Brian


PS Hi Jim....

[sgbernard]

Hey Brian, hope you're well: bad year for the 'Heels, I can hardly watch!

I never knew I'd catch you with a Hooker!

You know, since the T210, the E222, and the T206 all share the same portrait but with the uniform manipulated, might this suggest that the T210 and the T209 (Both Danville) date to the same time, and that the T206 and the E222 (Both Lynchburg) date to the same time? Probably with one pair in 1909, the other pair in 1910?

[Brian Weisner]

Hi Seth,
The Heels will be back to strength next season... Losing players early to the NBA eventually takes it's toll... I'm happy with the two Championships we won in the past 5 years, so I'll take a down year as we reload for next season. Look for another good Tournament run in 2-3 years.

I do know that Hooker only played with Danville in 1910 and that the T209's were also released during the later stages of 1910....

Be well Brian

PS That's the only kind of "Hooker" you could catch me with....

[cfc1909]

Hooker.jpg

Hi Brian-I will call you soon

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by sgbernard

and that the T206 and the E222 (Both Lynchburg) date to the same time?

The T206 art work per Scot Reader was drawn up in the spring of 1909 and several of those images were used in the E222 set. McCauley being one of those is shown as Portsmouth though he didn't finish the season with them.

However the Smith card showing him on the Lynchburg team had to be drawn up after July 18, 1909 when he was traded from Richmond to Lynchburg. So the E222 or at least some of them were probably released in the second half of 1909 or early 1910.

[mzm55]

Good looking card, Brian. Interestingly, my type 2 Hooker is also very miscut. I own a number of Danville cards, and he's the only one without routine borders.

[Brian Weisner]

Hi Zach,
I told you we should have used a "Pro" to cut that sheet of T209's.... My kids have never been able to cut straight.... Good thing we stopped them before the ruined all of the B.E. Thompson's......

Talk to you soon... Brian

[Tom Hufford]

For years, the guys that put the Turkin-Thompson and Macmillan Baseball Encyclopedias had Buck Hooker all confused with Cyrus Hoch, a pitcher from Buffalo who died in 1911. That's what the encyclopedias listed through the 1960s. Being from Virginia, I knew that Buck Hooker was from Richmond, and played later than 1911. About 1974, I located Buck's sister Florence in Richmond, and she filled me in on his birth and death dates, where he's buried, etc.

So, over the years, he's become one of my favorites.

Here's the last major league pay voucher he signed in 1903

[Tom Hufford]

Riverview Cemetery - Richmond, VA

[sgbernard]

Tom, great stuff, nice pay-slip.

Zach, I thought the black blip over Buck's shoulder on Brian's card was just junk on the border, but it's clearly on yours, too. What is that? Is that part of the background?

[mzm55]

I agree, fantastic, scholarly research, Tom.

Seth,

The black part you see in the two Hooker cards is part of the background. I've never noticed it until you mentioned it; I have no idea what it is. Here are the other Danville players I have. Note that neither of these two guys share the black mystery area in their backgrounds.


Brian,

You're right, next time we'll have to find a better sheet cutter.

[sgbernard]

Zach, I went back through my pictures, and I found our mysterious black spot on Sullivan. Here's a photo (card's not mine). Looks like it actually might be the back of the chair they were sitting on for the portrait photo? It doesn't show up on the other Danville cards that I have scans of. Anyway, it's too dark to be looking at black splotches.

[Jim VB]

The black spot looks to me like the post on the back of the chair they are sitting in.

[Matt]

From everybody's favorite web site, findagrave.com:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...&GRid=13486440

[cfc1909]

this is the board at its best. Tom and everyone else thank you so much for responding.

I will do my best to ad 209 Hooker to my collection.

[sgbernard]

Don't try too hard, Jim, I want one, too!