NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-28-2022, 11:58 AM
jamorton215 jamorton215 is offline
member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 24
Default Never-Before-Seen Babe Ruth prewar card coming soon to Heritage!

For those that may not have seen on Facebook or Twitter in the last week or two, I recent acquired a never-before-seen (so far) Babe Ruth card! It’s currently being graded by PSA and has been consigned to Heritage Auctions for their Winter Platinum Auction in February…

A newly discovered variant of the well-known “Sports & Games” tobacco set, this Ruth is part of a near complete set (24/25) that has the text in the back entirely in Spanish! Believed to be from around the same time as the other known sets - 1929-1930 or so.

The photos attached show the backs. When compared to the wording on the English variation, it is word-for-word identical with the only exception being this new Ruth saying “Chile” instead of “England” at the bottom.

Known populations to this point?…

PSA - 0
SGC - 0
BGS - 0
CSG - 0

Anson Whaley did a nice write up of the set with images I shared with him of the cards. The write up can be found here:

https://prewarcards.com/2022/12/22/g...TSzCv6z5-1mus8

Heritage will be auctioning the Ruth by itself and the rest of the set as a second lot. Excited to see how it does with Heritage in February!

Thanks for reading and happy collecting!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-28-2022, 12:52 PM
Bicem's Avatar
Bicem Bicem is offline
Jeff 'Prize-ner'
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Seattle
Posts: 4,063
Default

buena suerte
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-28-2022, 01:09 PM
mrreality68's Avatar
mrreality68 mrreality68 is offline
Jeffrey Kuhr
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 5,619
Default

Very nice and good luck with it.
__________________
Thanks all

Jeff Kuhr

https://www.flickr.com/photos/144250058@N05/

Looking for
1920 Heading Home Ruth Cards
1933 Uncle Jacks Candy Babe Ruth Card
1921 Frederick Foto Ruth
Joe Jackson Cards 1916 Advertising Backs
1910 Old Mills Joe Jackson
1914 Boston Garter Joe Jackson
1915 Cracker Jack Joe Jackson
1911 Pinkerton Joe Jackson
Shoeless Joe Jackson Autograph
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-28-2022, 02:38 PM
ullmandds's Avatar
ullmandds ullmandds is offline
pete ullman
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: saint paul, mn
Posts: 11,252
Default

Def an interesting new variation I've never seen before. Should sell for a bit of a premium over the common churchman.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-23-2024, 05:30 PM
Maxjacks Maxjacks is offline
Max Jackson
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 436
Default

I found the 25th card online, and figured I would bump the old thread


__________________
Monster slain, 520/520!

Always looking for oddball Larry Doyle items.

Collecting New York Nationals in most Pre War sets. Especially t206 Non-Piedmont and non-sweet caporal backs.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-24-2024, 01:29 AM
bcbgcbrcb bcbgcbrcb is offline
Phil Garry
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 6,827
Default

Let’s see it inside the PSA holder…….
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-24-2024, 03:36 AM
glchen's Avatar
glchen glchen is offline
_G@ґy*€hℯη_
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 2,924
Default

Here it is, along with the other variations.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1929_churchman_25_ruth_variations_small2.jpg (184.9 KB, 328 views)
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-24-2024, 05:12 AM
EddieP EddieP is offline
Member
Ed.gar Pim.entel
 
Join Date: Mar 2022
Posts: 362
Default

I’ m glad this thread popped up again. I’ve been studying the British American Tobacco Company Booklet published by the Cartophilic Society of Great Britain in the 1950s.These cards were distributed by the British American Tobacco Company probably in the 1930s. At the time of the Booklet’s publication, the set was known to have existed in Argentina though it was never seen by the Society members. They believed the set was manufactured in Chile ( British American Tobacco had a manufacturing plant there) and distributed to Argentina , other parts of South America , and perhaps, Spain.

Based on the agreement between American Tobacco and Imperial Tobacco in 1902 the set most likely was not distributed in Cuba. Likewise , The BAT English Version was NOT distributed in the UK nor the US, but rather was distributed in Malaysia, other parts of Southeast Asia, and probably China.

I would be interested to know if there is difference in the card stocks between the English Version and the Spanish Version.

BTW, nice pick-up.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-24-2024, 05:56 AM
Exhibitman's Avatar
Exhibitman Exhibitman is offline
Ad@m W@r$h@w
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Beautiful Downtown Burbank
Posts: 13,093
Default

Very nice. Reminds me of other UK dual sets like Machado Tobacco (Jamaica).
__________________
Read my blog; it will make all your dreams come true.

https://adamstevenwarshaw.substack.com/

Or not...
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-24-2024, 12:24 PM
Maxjacks Maxjacks is offline
Max Jackson
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 436
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by glchen View Post
Here it is, along with the other variations.
Great image Gary, Are you the person who won the lot at Heritage?
__________________
Monster slain, 520/520!

Always looking for oddball Larry Doyle items.

Collecting New York Nationals in most Pre War sets. Especially t206 Non-Piedmont and non-sweet caporal backs.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-24-2024, 11:14 PM
glchen's Avatar
glchen glchen is offline
_G@ґy*€hℯη_
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 2,924
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EddieP View Post
I would be interested to know if there is difference in the card stocks between the English Version and the Spanish Version.

BTW, nice pick-up.
Thanks, Eddie. I couldn't tell if there is much of a difference between the card stocks


Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxjacks View Post
Great image Gary, Are you the person who won the lot at Heritage?
Hi Max, yes, I did win the lot on Heritage for this. I'm just keeping the Ruth card, and I'll probably get around to selling the rest of the lot sometime later when I find time to scan the cards and create ebay listings for them.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
babe ruth, baseball, hall of fame, prewar, psa




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Heritage Auction Babe Ruth etsmith Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used 1 12-03-2022 08:47 AM
Babe Ruth Ball Rejected by Heritage Thecafewha Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used 17 03-14-2016 01:39 PM
FS 2011 Topps Heritage #141 Babe Ruth SGC 98 Northviewcats 1980 & Newer Sports Cards B/S/T 0 09-10-2014 11:22 AM
babe ruth on a donut box,heritage signature auction shmikeynyc Ebay, Auction and other Venues Announcement- B/S/T 0 10-31-2010 09:40 PM
babe ruth e285 heritage signature auction shmikeynyc Ebay, Auction and other Venues Announcement- B/S/T 0 10-31-2010 09:29 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:20 AM.


ebay GSB