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It is quite easy to voice your dissatisfaction with current grading standards,
Posted By: Gilbert Maines
but quite another thing to propose a viable alternate set of standards. Heck, as a group we can not approach agreement on card definition and many other basic considerations related to our hobby. I can not imagine that we could achieve any better results with this, but I want to. |
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It is quite easy to voice your dissatisfaction with current grading standards,
Posted By: Al C.risafulli
With all due respect, my experience has been that the majority of people who are displeased with current grading standards are displeased because they may be overgrading their cards. |
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It is quite easy to voice your dissatisfaction with current grading standards,
Posted By: BcD
and trust yourself and there will be no problem with grading! |
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It is quite easy to voice your dissatisfaction with current grading standards,
Posted By: edacra
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It is quite easy to voice your dissatisfaction with current grading standards,
Posted By: warshawlaw
Let's not sugar-coat history here. The real and only motive behind the slabbing thing was corporate profits. The coin graders realized there was a vast market of cards that could be slabbed if their owners could be convinced to pay for the service, hence the "card doctor" marketing blitzes from PSA designed to convince you not to trust your own eyes and the fraudulent price guide designed to convince you that slabbed cards performed like great stocks at a time the card market had been flat for quite a while. Stampeding collectors like cattle into slabbing their cards was the goal, not some noble effort to standardize grading. That was merely one of the justifications. |
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It is quite easy to voice your dissatisfaction with current grading standards,
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Well for starters, to say that everything is "mint" until it reaches the public or the consumer is something with which I cannot agree. A card can leave the printing process with a ding or a scrape. |
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It is quite easy to voice your dissatisfaction with current grading standards,
Posted By: barrysloate
But Frank- with so many cards trading in the thousands of dollars, they really are commodities. The days of them being sentimental pieces of cardboard are dwindling. I think as the hobby evolves, it will become a pastime of the very rich. As for Adam's comment that grading prevents a dealer from calling a raw card NR MT when it is in fact a PSA 3, there is a related issue that has long bothered me. If I were to sell a raw card as NR MT, and it came back from a service as EX-MT (which really is a subtle and subjective difference) even though I have been grading cards for almost 25 years and the professional grader might be doing it for six months, I would lose that argument 100% of the time. No one would accept my grade, and would only acknowledge the grader's opinion. And that would be something I wouldn't even attempt to defend, as I know I couldn't possibly win. |
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It is quite easy to voice your dissatisfaction with current grading standards,
Posted By: Gilbert Maines
Barry, you are not alone in that realization. Many with similarly impeccable credentials (and some with lesser experience) find this status frustrating. BCD's point is well taken. |
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It is quite easy to voice your dissatisfaction with current grading standards,
Posted By: barrysloate
I long ago came to the conclusion that my opinion about the grade of a card is meaningless, and just send everything in to be graded like everyone else. Hey, for a lazy guy like me, it makes life simpler. |
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It is quite easy to voice your dissatisfaction with current grading standards,
Posted By: Rick
Grading gives the buyer a more balanced playing field ... Along with ebay a buyer doesnt have to be told his cards are a piece of crap by the same dealer who told him it was gem when he first bought from said dealer. |
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It is quite easy to voice your dissatisfaction with current grading standards,
Posted By: James Gallo
Slabbing is almost a necessary evil. It may have started with coins, but has moved on to cards, comics, action figures and now I hear they are slabbing stamps too. |
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It is quite easy to voice your dissatisfaction with current grading standards,
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Ah.... Insurance. |
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It is quite easy to voice your dissatisfaction with current grading standards,
Posted By: edacra
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It is quite easy to voice your dissatisfaction with current grading standards,
Posted By: Jeff Lowe
Grading is just like having your company or service accredited . It may bring you more resale value in the end but basically its only telling you that what you know already . |
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It is quite easy to voice your dissatisfaction with current grading standards,
Posted By: jay wolt
"It may bring you more resale value in the end but basically its only telling you that what you know already." |
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It is quite easy to voice your dissatisfaction with current grading standards,
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Seems to me that here lately, the past few months, more folks are coming out of the closet about how they think slabbing is nuts. A few of us speak about it, and then others aren't ashamed to join in. |
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It is quite easy to voice your dissatisfaction with current grading standards,
Posted By: steve yawitz
I'm proud to have joined the hearty band of deslabbers, Frank. |
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It is quite easy to voice your dissatisfaction with current grading standards,
Posted By: John Barnes
Frank, |
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It is quite easy to voice your dissatisfaction with current grading standards,
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
My 515 or so T206s are stacked in a small box, sorted by team. |
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