1989 Fleer Randy Johnson #381 Marlboro Errors - 30 Years Later

[steve5838]

And here is a group shot (the FedEx driver just dropped off the new slab).

[Hatorade]

Is the tinting on all 3 exactly the same or are you able to notice any small differences?

[steve5838]

Originally Posted by Hatorade

Is the tinting on all 3 exactly the same or are you able to notice any small differences?

The tinting on the three signs looks the same to me. If you PM me your personal email address I can scan the three cards at once and send you the scan(s).

Steve

[steve5838]

Here are close ups of the signs on my 3 clear cards.

[steve5838]

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[steve5838]

A bunch of people have asked privately for my valuation on the clear cards. I really don't know. If you've followed this thread long enough you know I haven't won any of these in competitive auctions. Without this guide point I don't think anyone can be sure of true market value with any certainty. The best I have to go by is prices I've paid and prices of other 80/90s chase cards with similar rarity. It is my favorite card, but I've come around to what some others here have suggested, that I don't need to hoard 3 of these - and will probably list the PSA6 at some point. I haven't decided if it will be an auction or BIN but would fund another of my (rare junk wax) chase cards that I can't otherwise afford.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by steve5838

A bunch of people have asked privately for my valuation on the clear cards. I really don't know. If you've followed this thread long enough you know I haven't won any of these in competitive auctions. Without this guide point I don't think anyone can be sure of true market value with any certainty. The best I have to go by is prices I've paid and prices of other 80/90s chase cards with similar rarity. It is my favorite card, but I've come around to what some others here have suggested, that I don't need to hoard 3 of these - and will probably list the PSA6 at some point. I haven't decided if it will be an auction or BIN but would fund another of my (rare junk wax) chase cards that I can't otherwise afford.

If/when you actually list it for sale please let us know. What is the other junk wax card(s) you are interested in?

[steve5838]

Originally Posted by bnorth

If/when you actually list it for sale please let us know. What is the other junk wax card(s) you are interested in?

I will definitely do that.

[steve5838]

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[bnorth]

Originally Posted by steve5838

Ben, you got me thinking. Sticking with the topic of this thread I am also a big fan of the aquamarine tint version of this card. My guess is it is similar rarity (I'm only aware of the ones held by Kevin, Hatorade, and me -- but believe there are more out there). I would also trade the PSA6 clear for two PSA graded aquamarine tint cards (as long as at least one is a PSA9). I have been trying to get all the less obscured versions in PSA9 holders so a trade like this would help fill that gap.

LOL, As a hoarder I get it. So you want to trade a rare card you have more than one of for another card you already have?

I have a friend that done something similar but had to give up on picking the grade and just went with PSA graded versions. When there are 5 or less known copies getting one in a specific grade isn't really realistic most of the time.

Wish I still had my aquamarine to trade you.

[bnorth]

Not the best pic but all I have for now. I just bought this one and can't wait for it to arrive. It is hard to tell from this pic but it is the dark blue version. Not sure how many are out there but I haven't seen many.

[steve5838]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Not the best pic but all I have for now. I just bought this one and can't wait for it to arrive. It is hard to tell from this pic but it is the dark blue version. Not sure how many are out there but I haven't seen many.

Awesome pickup, Ben! Congratulations!

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by steve5838

Awesome pickup, Ben! Congratulations!

Thank you, I am so excited to get this card. Got tracking # this morning and confirmation USPS received it at 1pm with expected delivery on Monday. I even signed up for email and text alerts for it.

On another 89 Fleer note I picked up a No Dot Wade Boggs this morning for $4 delivered.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Thank you, I am so excited to get this card. Got tracking # this morning and confirmation USPS received it at 1pm with expected delivery on Monday. I even signed up for email and text alerts for it.

On another 89 Fleer note I picked up a No Dot Wade Boggs this morning for $4 delivered.

Randy was 110 miles and one sorting facility away on Saturday. Then he decided he needed a several hundred mile out of the way vacation to St Louis this weekend before he returned to that same sorting facility today. Hopefully he is done with the detours/vacations and arrives tomorrow.

EDIT: I got alerted it just arrived in the town I live in.

[bnorth]

Just arrived. I believe it is the 3rd known dark blue/purplish version.

[steve5838]

Originally Posted by bnorth

If/when you actually list it for sale please let us know. What is the other junk wax card(s) you are interested in?

In case anyone is interested I just listed the PSA6 clear one at:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/30546308651...mis&media=COPY

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by steve5838

In case anyone is interested I just listed the PSA6 clear one at:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/30546308651...mis&media=COPY

That is an amazing card. Good luck with the sale.

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by bnorth

That is an amazing card. Good luck with the sale.

+1

Any chance we can change the title of this thread to reflect that is now 35 years?

[steve5838]

Originally Posted by bnorth

That is an amazing card. Good luck with the sale.

Thanks Ben!

Steve

[Ltlbvr]

Hi Everyone,

Just dropping in to introduce myself. My name is Brian and I collect all rare things Junk Wax Era. Past projects are 89 Fleer Ripken, 90 Topps Partial Blackless, 91 Topps Desert Shield and most recently early 90s UD Heros Autographs.

I recently started collecting the Marlboro Johnson. I picked up a few nice additions from Steve (including the Clear PSA 6).

I have spent hours combing through the material on this thread. Honestly, it reminds me a bit of the Partial Blackless thread on CU. I appreciate all the time and effort you all have taken to put this information together so a newbie like myself can get up to speed faster.

Looking forward to learning more. Thanks again for putting this together.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Ltlbvr

Hi Everyone,

Just dropping in to introduce myself. My name is Brian and I collect all rare things Junk Wax Era. Past projects are 89 Fleer Ripken, 90 Topps Partial Blackless, 91 Topps Desert Shield and most recently early 90s UD Heros Autographs.

I recently started collecting the Marlboro Johnson. I picked up a few nice additions from Steve (including the Clear PSA 6).

I have spent hours combing through the material on this thread. Honestly, it reminds me a bit of the Partial Blackless thread on CU. I appreciate all the time and effort you all have taken to put this information together so a newbie like myself can get up to speed faster.

Looking forward to learning more. Thanks again for putting this together.

Hi Brian, looks like you have been a member for some time. You need to stop by more often. I post a lot of worthless junk but occasionally post something worth reading.

[Ltlbvr]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Not the best pic but all I have for now. I just bought this one and can't wait for it to arrive. It is hard to tell from this pic but it is the dark blue version. Not sure how many are out there but I haven't seen many.

How’d you know from these pics what the card was? Are there indicators on the card other than the board? Or when combined with the board gives it a higher probability?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Ltlbvr

How’d you know from these pics what the card was? Are there indicators on the card other than the board? Or when combined with the board gives it a higher probability?

Just from seeing and owning a boat load of Johnson error cards and I have had one of that version in hand before. Plus I get lucky and find rare stuff on occasion.

[Hatorade]

Originally Posted by Ltlbvr

Hi Everyone,

Just dropping in to introduce myself. My name is Brian and I collect all rare things Junk Wax Era. Past projects are 89 Fleer Ripken, 90 Topps Partial Blackless, 91 Topps Desert Shield and most recently early 90s UD Heros Autographs.

I recently started collecting the Marlboro Johnson. I picked up a few nice additions from Steve (including the Clear PSA 6).

I have spent hours combing through the material on this thread. Honestly, it reminds me a bit of the Partial Blackless thread on CU. I appreciate all the time and effort you all have taken to put this information together so a newbie like myself can get up to speed faster.

Looking forward to learning more. Thanks again for putting this together.

Welcome to the club! You’re an official card carrying member with that clear card. What other 1989 Fleer Marlboro versions do you have?

[steve5838]

Originally Posted by Ltlbvr

Hi Everyone,

Just dropping in to introduce myself. My name is Brian and I collect all rare things Junk Wax Era. Past projects are 89 Fleer Ripken, 90 Topps Partial Blackless, 91 Topps Desert Shield and most recently early 90s UD Heros Autographs.

I recently started collecting the Marlboro Johnson. I picked up a few nice additions from Steve (including the Clear PSA 6).

I have spent hours combing through the material on this thread. Honestly, it reminds me a bit of the Partial Blackless thread on CU. I appreciate all the time and effort you all have taken to put this information together so a newbie like myself can get up to speed faster.

Looking forward to learning more. Thanks again for putting this together.

Welcome to the thread Brian. There are some really knowledgeable folks here who I've learned a ton from. Enjoy the ride down the rabbit hole of this card! Steve

[Ltlbvr]

Originally Posted by Hatorade

Welcome to the club! You’re an official card carrying member with that clear card. What other 1989 Fleer Marlboro versions do you have?

I’ve got a clear, aqua, light blue box/stencil, and quite a few red / green / fish / red negatives . . .

I do not have a dark blue, so if you know of one . . .

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Ltlbvr

I’ve got a clear, aqua, light blue box/stencil, and quite a few red / green / fish / red negatives . . .

I do not have a dark blue, so if you know of one . . .

Awesome, do you have all 3 of the green scribble versions? I recently sold a dark blue. If I find anything new I will email you.

[Ltlbvr]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Awesome, do you have all 3 of the green scribble versions? I recently sold a dark blue. If I find anything new I will email you.

I may not. Post them here and I'll compare what I've got. I know I have 2 different . . . not sure about 3 . . .

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Ltlbvr

I may not. Post them here and I'll compare what I've got. I know I have 2 different . . . not sure about 3 . . .

Post #324 in this thread has decent pics. From top to bottom.

Top:This has a bar through the word with the tops of the l & b visible. Back before Covid when the green scribble was still insanely rare this one took me a couple years to track down.

Bottom:This is more of a blob that covers the entire word.

Middle:This one is a combination of the two. It is the blob but also has the darker bar visible.

[steve5838]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Post #324 in this thread has decent pics. From top to bottom.

Top:This has a bar through the word with the tops of the l & b visible. Back before Covid when the green scribble was still insanely rare this one took me a couple years to track down.

Bottom:This is more of a blob that covers the entire word.

Middle:This one is a combination of the two. It is the blob but also has the darker bar visible.

My focus hasn't been on the more obscured versions so I am still learning. I'm curious how would you classify this one currently for sale on eBay? It seems to be a scribble version but there seems to be an extra layer of tint? I pasted a picture from the PSA scan below.

[Hatorade]

That is a medium to dark fish with red circle. When the fish with red circle lineage gets towards the middle to darker end of the spectrum they all have that same dot towards the head of the fish. I’ve included the link from post #75 below. The last 13 or so cards in the album all have the same dot and range in the amount of green tint over them. It’s tough to tell exactly but the card you posted appears to be more toward the darkest or most tinted.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rjmarl...57675341931257

[steve5838]

Originally Posted by Hatorade

That is a medium to dark fish with red circle. When the fish with red circle lineage gets towards the middle to darker end of the spectrum they all have that same dot towards the head of the fish. I’ve included the link from post #75 below. The last 13 or so cards in the album all have the same dot and range in the amount of green tint over them. It’s tough to tell exactly but the card you posted appears to be more toward the darkest or most tinted.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rjmarl...57675341931257

This is very helpful. I really like the progression/ordering of images in your album. Thank you!