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Posted By: runscott
This seems like a pretty liberal "good", but keep in mind that I am very supportive of SGC and don't beat me too hard for my comments |
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Posted By: jay behrens
I was going thru some of the set registry. Check out the Goodwin Champions registered set. There are some cards there that will make you shake your head as why they got such a generous grade. Hope this isn't what is coming out of SGC since the departure of Derek Grady. |
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Posted By: Albie O'Hanian
I put in a couple of bids on the card and it never crossed my mind that it was a "generous" good. I suppose it could have been graded lower but it is not that bad a card. I do not think it would have sold for any less had it been graded one grade (or one half grade) lower. |
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Posted By: petecld
Jay, |
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Posted By: jay behrens
Pete, good to hear. As much I want my cards to get a high grade, I don't want it becuase the graders are getting lax. I didn't look that close at the labels on teh Goodwins, but they did seem older, but not really old labels that are obviously differnt. |
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Posted By: leonl
In my amateur opinion this is not overgraded unless there is a crease I can't see or back damage. I would say with the corners rounded and no creases and a clean back....then a 40-50 is correct....maybe I am too lenient?.....just my 1/2 cent worth |
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Posted By: runscott
but the Mayo looked fairly trashed in my opinion - bad crease, tape on back, major scuffing and staining. |
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Posted By: Keith O'Leary
I need to add my 2 cents here. The N43 in question was submitted to SGC by me and I'm also assuming Jay is talking about my non baseball N162s in the registry. |
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Posted By: petecld
Jay, |
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Posted By: warshawlaw
the 50 was generous due to centering. I'd have said 40 on it. |
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Posted By: jay behrens
problems with this card; a diamond cut and no right boarder to speak of. To be generous, you can claim 90/10 centering becuase of the diamond cut, but even then, it shouldn't grade any better than 40 by SGc guidelines. |
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Posted By: jay behrens
I should correct myself, the N43 doesn't have a diamond cut, the print is skewed a bit. The left hand side is slightly higher than the left. |
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Posted By: scott brockelman
I SENT IN A GROUP OF CARDS SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, AND RECEIVED THEM BACK A FEW DAYS AGO, LONG AFTER THE PREDICTED DATE AND TO MY AMAZEMENT(OR DISBELIEF) FOUND THEY DID NOT GRADE SEVERAL OF THE M116'S, CLAIMING THEY WERE TRIMMED!, THESE WERE FULL SIZE, EVEN OVER SIZE CARDS, ALL FROM AN ORIGINAL GROUP I PURCHASED A FEW YEARS AGO, NOW BEFORE YOU JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS, 2 WERE GRADED! AN 84 AND AND 80. THE REST WERE REJECTED, MY POINT IS THIS, ALL CARDS ARE TRIMMED, EITHER MECHANICALLY BY CUTTING BLADES OR SCISSORS AT THE TIME OF PRODUCTION. OR, TRIMMED POST PRODUCTION TO IMPROVE THEIR VALUE. IT IS NOT THAT DIFFICULT TO ASCERTAIN THE STATUS OF EITHER "IF" YOU COLLECT THAT PARTICULAR SET OR KNOW CARDS. THESE WERE NOT TRIMMED! I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE! THE PEOPLE AT SGC AND PSA AND THE REST OF THE LOT, DO NOT COLLECT SQUAT, OTHER THAN A BIWEEKLY PAY CHECK. <P> |
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Posted By: scott brockelman
i believe the person who bought it may have paid a small premium based on the fact that it was a baltimore player, which always seem to bring a premium. despite the technical grade, which was a bit overgraded in my amateurish opinion, i think they would say they got a "deal". as you will find in collecting to each his own, i have paid "way more than book" for something i wanted and was happy as bill clinton at a wet t-shirt contest. |
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Posted By: Bill Cornell
I just got back a lot of 36 T205's and T207's from SGC, 12 of which got knocked down as "trimmed" (one is "recolored"). The grades were also well below where I expected them to be. If this was my first submission to SGC, I would merely be very disappointed, but I have submitted many cards from both of these sets to them before and I cannot believe that I was wrong about the integrity of 36% of them. Also, the graded cards do not match up at all with others I have. |
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Posted By: Brian H.
As to the card at issue I guess I would give it a "20/1.5" (I think that's really just a half grade lower in PSA lingo anyway.) The price seems OK. After all this card is not exactly popping up every day on Ebay; the grading suggests (or even dictates to many) that it is legit; the player is a HOFer and part of that "Old Orioles" crew to boot. Frankly I might have paid as much although I would probably rather have one graded down for scrapbook removal than for all that image wear on the front. |
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Posted By: Keith O'Leary
I agree with Jay, SGC seems to be tougher on non baseball cards, but heres a comparison. Top is new regime, bottom is old. |
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Posted By: david
i would say the robinson mayo is not as bad as other mayos i have seen graded by sgc. not to pick on mw but i think the delehanty, and the ward he has on ebay now, are overgraded. personally for either of those two cards to argue over a grade or half a grade is moot since they rarely come up for auction. |
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Posted By: MW
Delehanty? Ward? |
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Posted By: warshawlaw
I sent in one with a near mint front but a back stain and got a 4. Mine looks a heck of a lot nicer than this one (no offense) What the ???? |
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