At least 14 Florida Marlins test + covid

[36GoudeyMan]

This is not about freedom to work; its about freedom from involuntary exposure to a potential lethal pathogen. I don't care if someone wants to work in their basement. I care if someone wants to work in a physical space that has any non-zero potential to kill someone else. I watched the Nationals games. Repeated non-mask wearing, physical contact, no social distancing, and that affects the players AND the staff, clubhouse staff, dugout staff, media, etc., etc. It also affects and puts at risk people in hotels, airports, and anywhere the players go or gather for any reason (see Clippers’ Lou Williams story). I admit I'm a flaming liberal, but here I am pro-life -- mine, yours, our families, and our neighbors. There is NO good reason, except entertainment, for this dangerous environment to host sports in the manner MLB has chosen. The season is an illegitimate joke anyway. Why risk players' health, their families health, and their organizations and communities' health?

[Exhibitman]

You know, there's a really, really good argument for going on regardless of how many get sick and are sidelined--on a battlefield. The baseball park ain't a battlefield and the a sports season isn't a war. I would love to see sports resume but not at the cost of getting people sick. And these are meaningless exhibition games in the biggest asterisk season ever. Canned crowd noises and cutouts in the stands? What a joke. I guess to complete the synthetic experience if I decide to watch a game I should park my car a mile from my house and tuck a $20 under the wiper blade, then eat a bad hot dog and flush $10 down the toilet. And since I am in Los Angeles, find someone to beat the crap out of me in a parking lot.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

You know, there's a really, really good argument for going on regardless of how many get sick and are sidelined--on a battlefield. The baseball park ain't a battlefield and the a sports season isn't a war. I would love to see sports resume but not at the cost of getting people sick. And these are meaningless exhibition games in the biggest asterisk season ever. Canned crowd noises and cutouts in the stands? What a joke. I guess to complete the synthetic experience if I decide to watch a game I should park my car a mile from my house and tuck a $20 under the wiper blade, then eat a bad hot dog and flush $10 down the toilet. And since I am in Los Angeles, find someone to beat the crap out of me in a parking lot.

That's funny.. I will tip the waitress on the way out.

Personally, I think wearing face masks isn't political or about rights. It's common sense to wear one. I could hurt others by not wearing one. I will make the sacrifice of the little bit of discomfort until there is a vaccine or cure.( though we don't have a cure for the common cold yet)

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[1952boyntoncollector]

So what if its not a normal season

You know in 1981 the the top 2 NL teams with the overall best record in the entire league didnt make the playoffs. teams played a different number of games for the season as well

"They had the best overall record in all of baseball. That was the Cincinnati Reds, who went 66-42 overall but did not make the playoffs. The St. Louis Cardinals, by the way, had the second-best overall record in the NL — 59-43 — and didn’t make the playoffs either. The Orioles had the same number of overall wins as the Yankees but had two fewer losses due to an uneven number of games played, yet they stayed home in October too. The Tigers had one more win than both of them"


Also there was a team in the 1970s that missed the playoffs by 1/2 game and played one less game then the team in front of them..

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Also there was a team in the 1970s that missed the playoffs by 1/2 game and played one less game then the team in front of them..

I never knew that about the 1972 Red Sox, they got screwed. I wonder if the strike had anything to do with that decision and MLB was pressed for time and didn’t want to delay the playoffs with two more possible games. ETA: after reading up on it, Bowie Kuhn said that absolutely no games lost to the strike would be made up after the matter was settled, and the Red Sox had a 1 1/2 game lead with four games left in the season including a winner take all three game series to end the season in Detroit. The Red Sox lost to the Orioles on a Sunday, lost two straight in Detroit on Monday and Tuesday to be eliminated, and then only winning the meaningless finale in Detroit.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

I never knew that about the 1972 Red Sox, they got screwed. I wonder if the strike had anything to do with that decision and MLB was pressed for time and didn’t want to delay the playoffs with two more possible games.

I cant imagine that do that now but just making a point that there are many traditions broken so who cares if this 2020 Covid year is all mixed up...there have been prior mixed up years with things people wouldnt stand for now and all within our lifetimes.

[bmattioli]

MLB tried although it might fail. I hate this Virus as most do.

[timn1]

And tHat season was a complete sh*Is how. Not sure it supports the point you seemed to be making.

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

So what if its not a normal season

You know in 1981 the the top 2 NL teams with the overall best record in the entire league didnt make the playoffs. teams played a different number of games for the season as well

"They had the best overall record in all of baseball. That was the Cincinnati Reds, who went 66-42 overall but did not make the playoffs. The St. Louis Cardinals, by the way, had the second-best overall record in the NL — 59-43 — and didn’t make the playoffs either. The Orioles had the same number of overall wins as the Yankees but had two fewer losses due to an uneven number of games played, yet they stayed home in October too. The Tigers had one more win than both of them"


Also there was a team in the 1970s that missed the playoffs by 1/2 game and played one less game then the team in front of them..

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by timn1

And tHat season was a complete sh*Is how. Not sure it supports the point you seemed to be making.

well you still see trophies and ribbons and pennants riding high from that season....doesnt seem like people really sad it was played..

[tschock]

Originally Posted by 36GoudeyMan

I care if someone wants to work in a physical space that has any non-zero potential to kill someone else.

Those people have the right to remain in their bunker, which is still probably a non-zero potential.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by 36GoudeyMan

This is not about freedom to work; its about freedom from involuntary exposure to a potential lethal pathogen. I don't care if someone wants to work in their basement. I care if someone wants to work in a physical space that has any non-zero potential to kill someone else. I watched the Nationals games. Repeated non-mask wearing, physical contact, no social distancing, and that affects the players AND the staff, clubhouse staff, dugout staff, media, etc., etc. It also affects and puts at risk people in hotels, airports, and anywhere the players go or gather for any reason (see Clippers’ Lou Williams story). I admit I'm a flaming liberal, but here I am pro-life -- mine, yours, our families, and our neighbors. There is NO good reason, except entertainment, for this dangerous environment to host sports in the manner MLB has chosen. The season is an illegitimate joke anyway. Why risk players' health, their families health, and their organizations and communities' health?

Got news for you, we likely will be living with Covid next year as well maybe even years later. Will always be non-zero death potential for years to come. 20-30% of people are not going to get a vaccine. By the way some people die when having a vaccine, its not a non-zero potential thing to do as well

There are people dying of heart disease and cancer that would of been saved had there not been a shut down.

A high percentage of the Covid deaths occurred in nursing homes.. Theres a reason Florida has far less death than New York even though there were more infections in Florida

Driving a car to look around for no apparent reason has zero benefit but there is not non-zero potential of death..

You guys need to stop taking all your news from just CNN...

Football risk of head injury is far worse then Covid risk in terms of health down the line...they didnt cancel football forever...

[bdk1976]

Originally Posted by 36GoudeyMan

This is not about freedom to work; its about freedom from involuntary exposure to a potential lethal pathogen.

Maybe I'm missing something - can you fill me in on how exactly players are being involuntarily exposed to this 'potentially' lethal pathogen? Last time I checked players can - and are - opting out of playing. Sounds like the very definition of voluntary to me.

How many of the infected Marlins (or any other MLB players) are going to die as a direct result of this 'horrific' outbreak? My prediction: zero.

If we were discussing a nursing home - where the majority of fatalities in my home state (58%) have occurred - you might have a point. Otherwise I would suggest running for office as your nonsensical hyperbole is a nice fit for that shameful occupation!

[Shoeless Moe]

What if a player who opts out dies in a car accident and they otherwise would have been alive had they played?


No one will avoid the hand of death. And while you can post a tremendously sad Covid story. I'm sure there are 150,000 sad Covid stories. Of course there are nearly 5000 sad 9/11 stories. Millions of sad War death stories, sad cancer death stories, sad car accident stories.

Bottom line not a lot of good death stories.

Thread is about playing ball......and they damn well SHOULD!!!!

[Shoeless Moe]

I think a more important matter then all this Covid talk is what the hell is this?

Zero alcohol?

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

I think a more important matter then all this Covid talk is what the hell is this?

Zero alcohol?

And zero sugar if the ads aren't lying. Why anyone would want the taste of lousy beer without the alcohol is a mystery.

[1880nonsports]

never mind I guess. I deleted what I really wanted to say. When you're dead you don't know it. It only bothers other people. It's the same when you're stupid. I see quite a few posts suggestive of the condition.....

[Shoeless Moe]

Just got back from baseball practice/scrimmage game. Kids had a blast! Parents had a blast.

Oddly this is one of the most fun summers EVER!!!! I hope others are enjoying all the extra time with their kids.

Never have I had so much time with my kids.

ENJOY EACH DAY YOU ARE ON THIS PLANET BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LAST FOREVER!!!!!

About to have my choice of ALL 4 sports at once on TV, playoffs after playoffs after playoffs!!!!!

Now if only Budweiser would come out with a good beer, not a ZERO alcohol, c'mon Budweiser you're better then that.