Huge Finds? How often?

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Posted By: Huge Finds. How often do they happen.

How often does a huge find of quantity or quality get published on the net?




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Posted By: Gilbert Maines

Of course, "huge" is a term which warrants definition, but I'd say it averages out to two per year.

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Posted By: Rich Klein

Remember; some huge finds are kept very quiet; they could go into a private collection or not be publicized

Rich

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Posted By: Gilbert Maines

Certainly Rich,
But publicized is a part of the inquiry: "... published on the net?"

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Posted By: peter chao

Would people consider a huge find to be a collection valued at over a million. If so, I would agree that it is approximately 2 times a year.

Peter C.

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Posted By: JK

Peter,

Can you tell me what the last 4 finds valued over a million dollars were? I think finds worth over a million would be extremely rare.

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Posted By: peter chao

You are right, I was thinking more about collections that I find out about. That's quite different than a find. A more realistic value for a find would be approximately $100,000.

Peter C.

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Posted By: dennis

i don't think you would classify a collection as a "find". i think a find would be more of a non-collector coming across a collection that was put together by someone years ago and then forgot about only to be discovered. like the oregon trail ojs,mr. mints 1955 bowman boxes,etc...

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

A lot of us have experienced "finds" to varying degrees, it all depends what we like to collect.

Some of my better finds are....

Two years ago.....400+ T206's from an original collection of the seller's Grandfather.

22 years ago....1948 BB & FB, 1949 BB, 1950 BB, 1952 FB (large), and 1953 BB Bowman uncut complete sheets.

20 years ago....1954 Bowman original printing plates (all 7) of the 32 cards per plate.

But, these finds are trivial.....some of the most significant finds are documented in Alan Rosen's book.

Whether you "love or hate" him, put that aside, and read his book....it's fascinating.

TED Z

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Posted By: Clint

Ted, do you have any of the plates left? I would like to see one if you could. I've never seen one of the plates before.

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Posted By: dennis

ted what you found were "finds" and fine finds indeed!

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Posted By: JimB

I think one of the most incredible finds of the last ten years or so has to have been REA's find of five T206 Cobb/Cobb backs. It brought the total known population at the time from six to eleven. Amazing!
JimB

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Posted By: barrysloate

I agree Jim, that one was extraordinary. Two others of note were Ron Oser's Kalamazoo Bats find- that's where most of the N.Y. Giants come from; and Rob's other find of six Four Base Hits from one source.

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Posted By: dennis

where did the cobb/cobbs come from?

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Each of the 7 plates were large tin plates with the 32 front images of the cards. Rizzuto (#1) was the 1st card and Del Crandall (#32)
was the last card on the first tin. All images were in perfect sequential order. On the 3rd tin (comprising images of cards #65 - 96) was
the "famous" Ted Williams (#66) image.....Ha....that certainly disproved the old myth that Ted's 1954 Bowman card is scarce due to
"broken plates".

No, I don't have these plates....long time ago, I sold them to Barry Halper.

TED Z

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Posted By: History Of Baseball Fan

Weren't those 5 Cobb with Cobb backs found in an old book ?

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Posted By: barrysloate

Yes- the Cobbs were found in a book, in the Atlanta area.

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Posted By: JimB

Yes, they were in the scrapbook of a former general store owner if I remember correctly. I think they were found by the grandson in the 80's and held for a while before he realized their enormous value and decided to sell them. One of the examples has the initials "JH" written on the back. They were the initials of the original owner of the cards.
JimB

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Posted By: Randy Trierweiler

I found a complete set of 1952 "To a Royal Fan" B&W Premiums in an antique shop in St. Charles, MO in 1976 for $2. I sold the set for $50!

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Posted By: Clint

Thanks for the info Ted. Those were incredible finds indeed. I also never tire of seeing your uncut sheets. Thanks for sharing.

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Posted By: peter chao

Any more wild theories on how 5 T206 Cobb/Cobb backs could end up in the hands of one collector?

Peter C.

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Posted By: Jimmy

On the internet I would say I here of a few every year. Outside the internet I come across at least one good find a year that keeps me going that I am able to purchase.

Jimmy

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Posted By: peter chao

Jimmy,

Off the internet, how do you locate your finds?

Peter C.

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Posted By: Jimmy

I attend at least a few shows a month helping other dealers and I travel through New England most of the year on weekends sometimes - you just never know. I also have a website now and just got a call from a person with a collection in Florida. Having a website and doing eBay auctions, attending shows, getting around helps a lot with contacts and opportunities. I also conduct free appraisals on my website and at my local antique shop which helps. I have been collecting for years, but turned to buying and selling because it was hard to purchase all the nice items I was seeing. I also have other contacts willing to buy collections with me which helps me make a quick decision if I needed to

Jimmy

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Posted By: peter chao

Those are a bunch of good ideas. How about a small ad in a local paper? Have you tried that recently?

Peter C.

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Posted By: boxingbaseballgolf33

I work with some other local dealers and they work on getting ads for us in local papers and other sources, while I do most of the internet tasks, listings and website developing. In the past I have had some luck, but nothing recently.

Jimmy

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Posted By: Fred C

The last two large OJ finds seem to belong to Dave Levin. I think people find him via an internet search. You can create a web presence and then set up search engines to seek out your site. The internet is the greatest method of reaching more people than local news papers. I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that most people would use the internet to research the value of "things". If the person doesn't have a clue about it then I'm sure they know someone that does and an internet search will probably be made on something that may "appear" to hold/have value.

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Posted By: peter chao

Fred C.,

What's a good way to post a "want ad" on the net? Thanks.

Peter C.

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Posted By: Zach S.

Does anyone have an update on the recent find that was brought up on this board (the skydash find)?

Zach S.

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Posted By: JimB

Peter,
That was not a "wild theory" about the five Ty Cobb backs. According to Rob Lifson, that is what happened.
JimB

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Posted By: Fred C

Peter,

I don't think you can just post a "want ad" on the internet unless you have a web presence to do so. The bottom line is without a basic web presence (web page) then you're not going to be able to do much. Even if you build a basic web page you'd still have to optimize your presence with the search engines. There are lots of services available that can assist with that. Do a web search for search engine optimization.

Good luck!

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Posted By: peter chao

Here's what I don't understand, when the T206 Cobb backs came out, Ty was already a superstar. You would think that people would keep his cards and throw away the commons. If that happened then why aren't there more Cobb backs out there.

If a collector was able to accumulate 5 of them I would think that they were relatively plentiful.

So what happened to the rest of the Cobb backs?

Peter C.

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Posted By: dennis

they were never inserted into cig packs for people to acquire. speculation is that they were samples or perhaps a one of a kind sheet etc...not much known about them.