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Old 09-01-2019, 08:41 PM
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1966 Topps Venezuelan.
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I always suspected that the 1958 Topps Enos Slaughter and Moe Drabowsky cards were side by side on the original uncut sheet because both can be found with a print defect of partially missing black ink on the backs, and it was confirmed by the recently auctioned 1958 second series uncut sheet. There are more than likely #183 Dave Jolly cards out there also affected by the print flaw.
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The 1958 Topps Mickey Mantle and Jackie Jensen can be found with a printing flaw of partially missing black ink on the back of their cards, with the recently auctioned 1958 Topps second series uncut sheet it is confirmed that they were side by side on the sheet.
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Not pre-1980 but it's my favorite (Canseco 40/40 on top):

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Cliff-- appreciate your detective work on those related 58 back defects, and help running them all down. Recurring but pretty scarce.

Jon-- great oddity of an iconic card

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Not pre-1980 but it's my favorite (Canseco 40/40 on top):

Awesome card Jon. You must have an amazing Canseco collection.
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An old friend of the variation thread was very gracious to send me a scan of his 58 Topps Dave Jolly print error card that fits in next to the 58 Enos Slaughter print error, now it looks like the card below Jolly, #189 George Susce, is probably affected with the missing black ink print flaw.
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An old friend of the variation thread was very gracious to send me a scan of his 58 Topps Dave Jolly print error card that fits in next to the 58 Enos Slaughter print error, now it looks like the card below Jolly, #189 George Susce, is probably affected with the missing black ink print flaw.
Looks like a 90 Topps Frank Thomas situation. Great find!
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This one is not pre-1980, but I just discovered this in my McGwire box over the weekend. I know for a fact that it is reoccurring because I have 2 of these that are identical. I was just wondering if anybody knew how scarce it is, if at all. I do know that I searched Ebay and COMC and could not find another. Here it is.

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Old 09-19-2019, 11:14 AM
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Not a print variation/error. But some kind of inventory label that got on the sheet before cutting, collating and packaging.
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I've never seen anything like that before. It's one of the cooler cards I've seen.
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Default Topps variations...

I found a few variants from my Topps collection...

A cool 58 Nellie Fox missing the yellow ink...

A 74 Stargell also missing yellow ink...

And a 94 Stadium Club Ryan no foil...
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I also have a blank front 1970-71 Maravich rookie...found in a small collection I picked up a few years ago...
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Old 09-21-2019, 04:54 AM
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I found a few variants from my Topps collection...

A cool 58 Nellie Fox missing the yellow ink...

A 74 Stargell also missing yellow ink...

And a 94 Stadium Club Ryan no foil...
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but the Fox and Stargel are NOT missing yellow error cards, they are altered. Both of those cards are faded from setting in the sun.
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Always liked the dash lines at the bottom on this one.


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Jon--- I like the Virdon. Do you know who is on the other card ? Calling DDBeat

Dan, following Ben's point take a look at the 63 Kaline thread on the forum page

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Thanks Al. I think it’s Mudcat Grant.



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Not quite a printing variation, more of a cutting variation. I don't know enough about how Topps cut their sheets back in the day, so I'm wondering how something like this could happen - anyone know how the sheets were cut up? Were sheets fed into a machine, were blades run through stationary sheets?

I bought this from eBay a few years back - no way it was issued in a pack, so I'm guessing someone took it out of the factory when it was printed in '78.
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Not quite a printing variation, more of a cutting variation. I don't know enough about how Topps cut their sheets back in the day, so I'm wondering how something like this could happen - anyone know how the sheets were cut up? Were sheets fed into a machine, were blades run through stationary sheets?

I bought this from eBay a few years back - no way it was issued in a pack, so I'm guessing someone took it out of the factory when it was printed in '78.
I have plenty of cards like this from 70s and 80s rack packs. That's how bad Topps' quality control was back then.
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I have plenty of cards like this from 70s and 80s rack packs. That's how bad Topps' quality control was back then.
Really? This isn't just a case where the image is tilted; the piece of cardboard itself is diamond shaped, with no 90 degree angles. These things were in packs? They must have stood out like sore thumbs and most must have come out of the package damaged.
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A different type of mis-cut with this shortstop getting shorted twice!

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I have never been able to figure out why they placed cards on the sheet in a random order. Wouldn't it make sense to place the cards on the sheet in number order? Was there a method to it?
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I have never been able to figure out why they placed cards on the sheet in a random order. Wouldn't it make sense to place the cards on the sheet in number order? Was there a method to it?
The reason they did that was to have random numbered cards in wax, rack, and cello packs rather than a bunch of consecutive numbered cards in those packs.
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Not a print variation/error. But some kind of inventory label that got on the sheet before cutting, collating and packaging.
So this post motivated me of taking a picture of a similar card. It is from 2007, when Topps was making a bunch of Mickey Mantle cards. This one I pulled from a pack myself. The two interesting things about this card:
1. There is masking tape on the front of it.
2. The card is torn about a third of the way through where the tape is.

Here are the pictures:



I went and took pictures of just my Yankees errors. Not a lot of cards, only six cards in total. Only one is pre-1980, it is this 1976 Jim Hunter:


I collect error cards of all sorts, including severly damaged, modified and defaced cards. BUT most of them are post 1980, so should I end up posting them into here, make a thread similar to this in the Modern Baseball cards section, or just make a thread for my own pictures? There is a lot of post 2000 content in this collect, including a lot of hockey cards.
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We have had several post 80 variants in this thread but given the length of this thread it might be good to have a post 80 sister thread. Others may think otherwise.

That tape job is interesting. Maybe since the tape was added before insertion in the pack it qualifies as an intentional change to the card and thus a true variation
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Finally found one of these



Discussed by George Vrecheck in SCD article

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1968 Topps - [Base] #369 - The Sporting News All Star Selection (Carl Yastrzemski)
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Two recurring print defects on this one:
1) Black blemish in left banner
2) Red circle fisheye near B on cap

So three variations: regular, one with just black mark, and one with black mark and fisheye.
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I've been lurking a while and saw something that might be of discussion here. Saw this 1967 Topps Wilhelm card and the back was discolored. Does anyone know if this is fading or weird ink circumstances? I've seen others like this from different series (no apparent pattern), and one card who's back was brownish. I don't know what to make of it.

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Looks like the printing process was running low on green ink to me on the 1967 Wilhelm card.
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But it doesn't go with the front.
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Whose names are on the back ? That's very decent for a "two" -- is there a problem we can't see ?
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1976 Topps Thurman Munson.
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I have a 78 topps Eddie Murray rc with ink dot, anybody else have any info?
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Not baseball, but an unusual 1970-71 Topps B-ball card with partially printed frame line.
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So basically a sister variation to the Jackie Robinson with diamond logo cut off.

There is also a variation of this with white circle to the left of the Phillies ballcap in the diamond logo. I stopped counting when I saw 5 on COMC.

1955 Topps - [Base] #29 - Herm Wehmeier [GOOD]
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John---here is SCD article on the Robinson and Herm. Note the Herm has a back variation that tracks the truncated front logo. Had not noticed the white mark

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=Awr9...7QjDQppuh3T3I-

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