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Old 02-08-2024, 02:53 PM
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Old 02-08-2024, 09:24 PM
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Can't recall ever seeing cards with those types of backs before, Ted.
OC/MC backs, of course, but nothing like those 2 copies

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Old 02-09-2024, 05:34 AM
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I've seen one other double printed back, hiller from the series, same collection, also signed. I don't know where it resides. Never seen any others.


I assume Jones was the last card on the sheet row, but why so much blank space? Same series as Strickland could mean they are also related. I don't recall seeing any 50/50 miscut reverse.


Also, both matches were not picked up at the same time. I've been looking for a long time never found any others
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Old 02-09-2024, 07:46 AM
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This is exactly what I am talking about.

It is interesting that the cards shown above are from the 3rd series/4th series, which - I believe - is after Topps made some production changes to figure out how to increase production. Sorry Dale, don’t mean to sidetrack your original post.

IMHO, Topps was experimenting as they produced the set – which is why we see red back/black back cards in the 1st series. Topps had more demand than anticipated and used additional lithographers to increase production shortly after issuing the 1st series. I believe that's why we see some of the anomalies like gray backs, glossy fronts (ultra rare) and cream backs. I had also read that they printed – at least initially – backs separately from the fronts, which is why we see some of the miscuts Ted has shown above.

Just speculation, of course, but the evidence seems to suggest something like the above scenario occurred with multiple printers

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Old 02-09-2024, 11:14 AM
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This is exactly what I am talking about.

It is interesting that the cards shown above are from the 3rd series/4th series, which - I believe - is after Topps made some production changes to figure out how to increase production. Sorry Dale, don’t mean to sidetrack your original post.

IMHO, Topps was experimenting as they produced the set – which is why we see red back/black back cards in the 1st series. Topps had more demand than anticipated and used additional lithographers to increase production shortly after issuing the 1st series. I believe that's why we see some of the anomalies like gray backs, glossy fronts (ultra rare) and cream backs. I had also read that they printed – at least initially – backs separately from the fronts, which is why we see some of the miscuts Ted has shown above.

Just speculation, of course, but the evidence seems to suggest something like the above scenario occurred with multiple printers
Don't ever worry about that, Zach. It's not like you posted a pic of a fish you just caught or something.
What you just posted is great info, imo, and whether it's a slight deflection or not, I think it is pertinent nonetheless to the overall discussion about 52 Topps cards.
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Old 02-09-2024, 12:54 PM
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Some graded, some not.
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Old 02-09-2024, 02:55 PM
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Dale, I like your Yogi. David, that is a nice Erskine.

Here are some that I have.
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Dale, I like your Yogi. David, that is a nice Erskine.

Here are some that I have.
Thanks, Gord.
Still can't believe I got that card for what I did. I hoped to win it reasonably priced but I thought, due the centering, that was wishful thinking. But thankfully for me I must have won it with not a lot of eyes on it?
Your cards sure are sweet as far as centering goes. IIRC, the Garagiola card is also rather tough card to find centered like yours.

That Erskine of David's is real nice. A pretty tough card to find centered like that for sure!

One thing I've noticed, and maybe I'm off here, but it seems to me Luke Easter's card is the only card in the set that has the thinnest side borders?
Pretty tough card to find centered at times and, imo, it is due to this fact.
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Here are a few of my better centered highs:
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One thing I've noticed, and maybe I'm off here, but it seems to me Luke Easter's card is the only card in the set that has the thinnest side borders?
Pretty tough card to find centered at times and, imo, it is due to this fact.
As a general rule of thumb, the third series has the narrowest borders and is tough to find centered. There are select cards in the first series that are tricky too, and a few scattered cards in other series that are tough on centering, but for me the third is the toughest.
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