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Old 03-04-2021, 06:30 PM
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Grade is in. A freaking 5. I'm at a loss (although Dustin guessed it). There is obviously no wrinkle, or it would top off at a 4. I do not get it.
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Old 03-04-2021, 06:48 PM
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On the first pass I was thinking it was a bit nicer than I did after really scrutinizing, best you can online. That's kind of the good news, that it's a card when you or anyone else looks at it, they're likely to think, "Dang, that's a really nice Jordan rookie."

When I looked a few more times after the first I was thinking 6.5. I'm pretty surprised about a 5. But then I remember PSA is an awful, horrid company. Joe Orlando should wear a mask and carry a gun every 15 days. My attorney has instructed me to include, "That's all my opinion."

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Old 03-04-2021, 06:49 PM
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Grade is in. A freaking 5. I'm at a loss (although Dustin guessed it). There is obviously no wrinkle, or it would top off at a 4. I do not get it.
Let me start by saying sorry that you were disappointed. I’m sure everyone would agree that it’s a beautiful card and any one of us would gladly put it in out collection.

My grade was based off the corners and edges (mainly the bottom left) . Also it could be the pic but it appears to have some discoloration on the back. Again congrats on a epic piece .
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Old 03-04-2021, 07:11 PM
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My grade was based off the corners and edges (mainly the bottom left) . Also it could be the pic but it appears to have some discoloration on the back. Again congrats on a epic piece .
Thanks Dustin, your prize will be in the mail soon. As for the back, that’s just the photo because the back was clean as a whistle. I guess since I got it in before the price hike, I’m paying for it one way or the other.
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Old 03-04-2021, 07:20 PM
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A surface wrinkle can get a 5, per their grading scale. Usually on the back of the card.
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Old 03-05-2021, 10:26 AM
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I think this is just more proof that PSA is going to be harder from this point forward on all iconic cards. Has anyone watched the pop reports lately on this card? How many 10s, 9s or 8s have been added within the last 6 months?
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Old 03-05-2021, 10:39 AM
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I think this is just more proof that PSA is going to be harder from this point forward on all iconic cards. Has anyone watched the pop reports lately on this card? How many 10s, 9s or 8s have been added within the last 6 months?
I really, really wish I'd sent this card in 5 years ago. It just sat there in a toploader forever!
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Old 03-05-2021, 11:21 AM
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When I guessed the card would come back as a 6.5 I was thinking just like Dan mentioned in his post about tough grades on high profile cards. But I really surprised at seeing what the grade popped at.
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I think this is just more proof that PSA is going to be harder from this point forward on all iconic cards. Has anyone watched the pop reports lately on this card? How many 10s, 9s or 8s have been added within the last 6 months?
Or it could be PSA being PSA. I had a friend about 20 years ago who opened a box of 1986 Fleer and pulled 3 beautiful Jordan RCs. Graded with PSA and got two 7s and one 8. He showed them to a dealer who graded a lot and he couldn't believe how under graded they were.

I think the Aaron is a 3/3.5. Hopefully better luck on that one.

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Based on what can be seen in the photos, that makes little to no sense.
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Old 03-05-2021, 11:33 AM
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Grade is in. A freaking 5. I'm at a loss (although Dustin guessed it). There is obviously no wrinkle, or it would top off at a 4. I do not get it.
If keeping it just be happy it is protected for now. If selling into this crazy market I would 100% crack out and Please Submit Again and see what happens.
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Old 03-05-2021, 11:45 AM
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This should pop today. Anyone want to guess on how hard they're going to hammer Hank?

I was think due to the back top right corner, it can't do better than a 3.5 but now I'm just hoping for a 2!

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Old 03-05-2021, 01:09 PM
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I am going with a 3 on the Aaron rookie.

On the Jordan rookie, is there a small stain on the white area of the right edge on the front?

Best looking 5 I have seen!
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Old 03-05-2021, 01:15 PM
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I am going with a 3 on the Aaron rookie.

On the Jordan rookie, is there a small stain on the white area of the right edge on the front?

Best looking 5 I have seen!

I see what you're looking at. I assumed a shadow, but maybe not.
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Old 03-05-2021, 01:18 PM
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It's amazing how widely the aesthetic look of a card can vary at the bottom end of the PSA grading spectrum.

I"ll go with an optimistic 3.5 on the Aaron card, even though it looks better then lots of 5's I've seen, and then will assume it will come in under a 3.

There.........I've covered all my bases.

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Old 03-05-2021, 01:15 PM
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I am going with a 3 on the Aaron rookie.

On the Jordan rookie, is there a small stain on the white area of the right edge on the front?

Best looking 5 I have seen!
I have never noticed it in-hand, but when I look at the photos it's in all of them. So yeah, I guess so. Eagle eye, my friend!
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Old 03-05-2021, 09:02 PM
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If keeping it just be happy it is protected for now.
Thanks Ben, this is the right way to think of it. Even though the eBay sold prices make it very tempting, it’s staying in my personal collection.
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My presumption based on the pics and the OP's assessment is that it's just one more example of PSA kicking the crap out of people who aren't their favorite submitters. I'd love to see what one of them would get on the same card.
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I'm going to estimate a 2.5 on the Aaron. The centering and presentation really does deserve the half-grade bump, but I'm not sure they will consider those corners modern-day "3" corners.

They have gotten so tough. Unfairly so.
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PSA is BS, they don't even follow their grading scale description
submit 10 times and you get 10 different result
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No grade yet on the Aaron, although it was supposed to be 2-day service. Next week, I guess. It’s in QC 1 right now.
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PSA is BS, they don't even follow their grading scale description
submit 10 times and you get 10 different result

Exaggerate much?
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