The real, unseen side of The Green New Deal.

[irv]

Michael Moore Doc Slams Environmentalists for Pushing Solar Energy, Electric Cars to Fix Global Warming.

So! 'Tar Sands Campaign' participant Sierra Club and 350 are supporters of "Biomass green energy plants". 'Biomass' is just a fancy word for de-forestation and burning trees. Trees emit Co2 and particulates when burnt. Which makes it dirtier than natural gas...

Al Gore's real reason behind the Global Warming alarmist movement.

A must watch for everyone! (free for a month)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk11...ature=youtu.be

[todeen]

Interesting. I've got a old hippy colleague who tells me this all the time. Especially the part about the koch brothers.

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[irv]

Originally Posted by todeen

Interesting. I've got a old hippy colleague who tells me this all the time. Especially the part about the koch brothers.

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It's a very good watch, especially for those that think and believe wind, solar and biomass is great for the planet.

Nothing but a big lie and money grab.

[Cliff Bowman]

Biggest scam of the last fifty years.

[steve B]

Having worked on the periphery of biomass stuff up till 2000, I'd have to disagree.

In many areas stumps aren't allowed to be buried since they can lead to voids when they rot away.
One place I did some work for built machines to process the stumps.
Another in NJ used the machines. Nearly all their wood came from either dead trees or trees removed during construction of housing or malls etc. The rest came from clean construction debris. They made mulch. (He charged people to dump their stumps etc then charged them a few weeks later for the same stuff when they bought mulch..)

Another was a town that used biomass in a sewage treatment/power plant.
Semi-treated water out, mixed with mulch and allowed to sit for some time. Some got used for mulch on town properties, most of the rest was burned in a small power plant. The mixer was hydraulic and I went out and helped fix it.
The stuff heated up so they had to spread it out occasionally. and even then they had a minor fire almost weekly.

[todeen]

Originally Posted by irv

It's a very good watch, especially for those that think and believe wind, solar and biomass is great for the planet.



Nothing but a big lie and money grab.

My old hippy friend is a conspiracy theorist. He is anti big government, anti big business, anti establishment, and believes individuals are idiots (for the most part). But he always seems to cite relevant data whether it's about green energy, vaccines, or climate change. He believes climate change is overrated, its an idea overrun by the establishment to sell green energy. He has nothing nice to say about Greta Thunberg - he thinks she is a complete tool of the establishment.

He believes in the science behind a lot of good ideas, but then points to the big money that bankrolls most research. When your primary donor is the Koch brothers, it's hard to release authentic information that tells the truth of the research committed. He says research, even by the federal govt, is always airbrushed to distort what was really discovered.

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[bnorth]

I have never understood mixing ethanol into gasoline. In every vehicle I have ever owned when I use the 10% ethanol blend I get 10% lower MPG.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Biggest scam of the last fifty years.

You got it, Cliff. I've never believed in Global Warming, other than the natural course of the planet, which, of course, is still developing and changing all the time. So much skewed info, lies, made up stories, etc, all designed to fleece your pockets and all under the false pretense we are helping to save the planet.

I think of the worldwide protests by our brainwashed youth, those that hate Trump because he didn't buy in with the Paris accord. The list goes on and on, which makes me even more mad knowing that they will likely get away with all of this. Al Gore, President Obama, our moron in charge up here, The Sierra Club, Bill Nye, David Suzuki and a lot of celebrities. All liars and all getting filthy rich off of it.

Originally Posted by todeen

My old hippy friend is a conspiracy theorist. He is anti big government, anti big business, anti establishment, and believes individuals are idiots (for the most part). But he always seems to cite relevant data whether it's about green energy, vaccines, or climate change. He believes climate change is overrated, its an idea overrun by the establishment to sell green energy. He has nothing nice to say about Greta Thunberg - he thinks she is a complete tool of the establishment.

He believes in the science behind a lot of good ideas, but then points to the big money that bankrolls most research. When your primary donor is the Koch brothers, it's hard to release authentic information that tells the truth of the research committed. He says research, even by the federal govt, is always airbrushed to distort what was really discovered.

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I can relate to your friend 100%. There are just too many questions and lies, let alone all the predictions that never came true, that should make everyone say, wait a minute, but no, as soon as you question any of them, you are quickly labeled/called a denier, a racist, a moron and a whole host of other things. With President Obama saying the science is settled, they don't even want to have a friendly/constructive debate as they, like a lot of people, because of who they are and not what they know, people automatically think they are correct. Some people are incapable of critical thinking anymore. Just blindly trust those in charge like good sheep and trust all the fake news.

Originally Posted by bnorth

I have never understood mixing ethanol into gasoline. In every vehicle I have ever owned when I use the 10% ethanol blend I get 10% lower MPG.

And I believe 15% is coming soon, if it hasn't already?? The 10% is bad enough but the 15% and higher can cause major engine damage as has been proven, especially in the marine industry as it is hygroscopic, (absorbs moisture) and can cause engine seizures and all sorts of other damage to fuel systems.

I hope this vid goes viral and gets a lot of mainstream coverage to expose the hypocrites who are actually doing far more damage to this planet than what they said they were doing.

An article in our paper this morning, which I was glad to see.

" “Everywhere I encountered green energy it wasn’t what it seemed, ” Gibbs says early in the film.

He explains why wind and solar power, electric vehicles, ethanol, biomass and biofuels cannot exist without fossil fuel energy and are environmentally destructive.""

https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...nergy#comments

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by todeen

My old hippy friend is a conspiracy theorist. He is anti big government, anti big business, anti establishment, and believes individuals are idiots (for the most part). But he always seems to cite relevant data whether it's about green energy, vaccines, or climate change. He believes climate change is overrated, its an idea overrun by the establishment to sell green energy. He has nothing nice to say about Greta Thunberg - he thinks she is a complete tool of the establishment.

He believes in the science behind a lot of good ideas, but then points to the big money that bankrolls most research.

I have two friends like yours. One of them is really just a nut-case with a wealth of data, but the other cites more relevant data, and is organized and coherent enough that it's hard to argue with him. Plus, he was my golfing buddy before I realized he was into this stuff, so I had him pegged for down-to-earth, not from-outer-space. These conspiracy theorists always seem to have minds like steel traps!

You should hear his theories about COVID-19. After listening to the details on why we had WWII and of course, Kennedy, I was not surprised that he had a full arsenal of information to back his COVID-19 thoughts. 5G in Wuhan, Bill Gates, etc .

[wazoo]

Originally Posted by Runscott

I have two friends like yours. One of them is really just a nut-case with a wealth of data, but the other cites more relevant data, and is organized and coherent enough that it's hard to argue with him. Plus, he was my golfing buddy before I realized he was into this stuff, so I had him pegged for down-to-earth, not from-outer-space. These conspiracy theorists always seem to have minds like steel traps!

You should hear his theories about COVID-19. After listening to the details on why we had WWII and of course, Kennedy, I was not surprised that he had a full arsenal of information to back his COVID-19 thoughts. 5G in Wuhan, Bill Gates, etc .

The 5G one is hilarious...People really believe anything they read.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Runscott

I have two friends like yours. One of them is really just a nut-case with a wealth of data, but the other cites more relevant data, and is organized and coherent enough that it's hard to argue with him. Plus, he was my golfing buddy before I realized he was into this stuff, so I had him pegged for down-to-earth, not from-outer-space. These conspiracy theorists always seem to have minds like steel traps!

You should hear his theories about COVID-19. After listening to the details on why we had WWII and of course, Kennedy, I was not surprised that he had a full arsenal of information to back his COVID-19 thoughts. 5G in Wuhan, Bill Gates, etc .

I love reading the unexplained mysteries and paranormal forums they are hilarious. Yes the wackos have great points and know a lot about the subject. Unfortunately it is always wrong and makes 0 sense. It is like a 6 year old trying to explain quantum physics to you. It don't make sense even if you don't think about it but damn are they serious about it.

My favorite part by far is how they are always being proven wrong. They somehow completely forget about that and move on to the next bat $hit crazy belief. Another amazing one is the people that think tv/movies about paranormal activities are real.