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Old 03-16-2021, 05:23 AM
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Bill. Can you post a better scan of the back of the krill card?
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I'll try haven't done that before.
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Only 8 card locations are unknown ! Really appreciate you guys getting this to where it is. Thanks
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Old 07-01-2021, 11:57 PM
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Default 1966 Topps 7th series rows updated

For those who haven't followed this thread in great detail, the 8 cards which still require placement are: 517, 528, 532, 538, 552, 556, 566, & 590. Five of the unknown cards reside in the row headed by Perranowski, one card is in row headed by Cards rookies (i.e., Hoerner), and the remaining two cards are at the end of the Jackson/Shirley row.

Based on miscuts, we know that 532/552 are adjacent to each other and that 517 is adjacent to a card containing some blue sky (and is probably at the far right edge). 590 & 566 both have miscuts that are severely diamond cut, so they might not be at an edge. And 556 (Queen) is above a regular card, not a Mgr or RC card.

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Old 07-02-2021, 05:35 AM
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Bill. Can you post a better scan of the back of the krill card?
- meant Oliver, not Krill
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Old 07-02-2021, 02:31 PM
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Haven't forgot will try this week. I'm not good with these though.

Been looking for more clues, haven't found any lately.
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Old 07-04-2021, 01:33 AM
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There is also this miscut which suggests that 538 (Allen) is adjacent to the checklist (517). So, if 517 is at an edge (highly likely), this means that the combo 538/517 is either at the end of the Perranowski row or at the end of the Shirley row.

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Old 07-04-2021, 03:29 AM
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That is some crazy detective work ! I am so impressed by the progress of this thread. Good luck completing the last couple cards.
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Old 07-09-2021, 11:24 AM
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Finally something. While I wait to figure out how to scan the high I bought a while back, there is a miscut 569 and 556 on ebay under greg morris. Bidding on both, however the 556 Queen has a hit of the card below on the back. To me it looks like oliver below queen, but sleuths weigh in.
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This is comparing the visible sliver to a #541 also being offered by GM, and it doesn't seem to be match (I checked a whole bunch of other ones, too), but there are enough bumps and dots in the black area (and that single black 'line' presumably over "YEAR" in the pink area) to hopefully lead to a clear match with another card...

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It’s not Gene Oliver, the Oliver always has two distinctive bumps on the left edge of the peach color area, especially the bottom corner which protrudes out noticeably.
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Got it. Also the miscut #569 in the same auction is also in play. looking for the card to it's immediate right on the sheet and this card presents some hints. For #556, there are only a few options here of missing places it could go, that's if all others are properly placed. On thing, since the G Jackson row is at the bottom of one sheet but is also not at the bottom of another sheet then I could still be in that row.
For the longest time I've been fixated on the checklist placing and still haven.t got much on that card. Glad to finally find some clues on Queen.
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This is comparing the visible sliver to a #541 also being offered by GM, and it doesn't seem to be match (I checked a whole bunch of other ones, too), but there are enough bumps and dots in the black area (and that single black 'line' presumably over "YEAR" in the pink area) to hopefully lead to a clear match with another card...

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I think it is #590 Bill Skowron under Queen. Can you do a mash up of the miscut Queen and a 66 Skowron from Greg Morris Cards to see if it's a match?
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i think your right. how about the right edge of #569?
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I think it's a swing and a miss, unfortunately...

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Dagnabbit. I need a mulligan. Dave Nicholson? ETA, on the other two candidates, Cuellar and Mahaffey, the stat lines don't extend far enough. If Nicholson checks out then Bob Allen and the Checklist can be inserted on the bottom row as the last two cards.
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Old 07-10-2021, 11:56 AM
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Queen could be in row B (Perranowski) and be above 598 (Perry), 569 (McFarlane), 570 (Mahaffey), 576 (Nicholson) as well as one, as yet unidentified card.

It could also be in row G (Shirley) and be above two, as yet unidentified cards (so 532 is still a possibility, as is Cuellar, Allen, Skowron).

And, it is also possible that Queen is in row C (Hoerner) and could be above Sullivan.
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Cliff-- i believe you have it right on Nicholson !!!
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The matching black blip(s) above "Throws" (which are even more apparent in other Nicholsons I looked at on eBay) and the extended 'year' line (not to mention the matching size of the salmon colored box) are good indicators that DING! DING! DING! we gotta winnah...

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That puts Bob Allen and the #517 Checklist in the last two slots on the Bart Shirley/Grant Jackson row. ETA, that also puts Monteagudo and Tebbetts in two of those three consecutive open slots on the Perranoski row, I believe Monteagudo is to the left of Tebbetts if I remember correctly.
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Scouring through prior posts, you did mention earlier that the combo is 532/552 so 532 is to the left of Tebbetts
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Scouring through prior posts, you did mention earlier that the combo is 532/552 so 532 is to the left of Tebbetts
Your post in #321 establishes that Monteagudo is to the left of Tebbetts based on the Tebbetts miscut.
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i think your right. how about the right edge of #569?
All Skowron cards have a stray line from the artwork that goes outside the box. There appears to be a matching stray line on the McFarlane scan but I don't think the scan is good enough to confirm. Maybe JollyElm can do a mashup of the McFarlane miscut and a Greg Morris Skowron card to see if they line up? It would be best for someone to win the McFarlane card and then put it next to a Skowron card and see if it lines up.
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This miscut of 552 is currently on ebay. Just a hint of the orange back of a card can be discerned. To me, it matched 566 Cuellar, and if true, then that would put 566 in the spot between McFarlane & Mahaffey, with 532 above McFarlane & 552 above Cuellar. However, my graphics ability is limited, so this would need someone to confirm.

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Since the rest of the black is thick and rich, I think the 'Skowron Blip' on the McFarlane card is just an unrelated gray area, or toning or something, so I don't believe it to be a match...

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How funny is it that on the back of Moose's card, although he won multiple championships during more than a decade in the majors, the highlight they chose to include harkened all the way back to his minor league days??
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All Skowron cards have a stray line from the artwork that goes outside the box. There appears to be a matching stray line on the McFarlane scan but I don't think the scan is good enough to confirm. Maybe JollyElm can do a mashup of the McFarlane miscut and a Greg Morris Skowron card to see if they line up? It would be best for someone to win the McFarlane card and then put it next to a Skowron card and see if it lines up.
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ill bid on these and hopefully learn to scan
JollyElm is right, it’s a stain or a blemish on the McFarlane miscut in almost the exact spot where the stray line is on the Skowron. That means it has to be Cuellar or Gonder but I don’t see any irregularities that would pinpoint a certain card.
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Check out the Tebbetts miscut on ebay (shown in post 424). Tebbetts must be above either an unidentified card (528, 566, or 590) or above Mahaffey (570). If Tebbetts is above Cuellar, then that would put 532, Monteaugue, above McFarlane.
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