Coaches corner issues disclaimer

[travrosty]

Coaches corner starting to issue a disclaimer concerning authenticaton. It's a start. Baby steps.

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot.aspx?LotID=308175

[scooter729]

THAT is what they pick on for being a questionable authentication?? Sure, JSA has had an issue here and there, but it's hysterical that CC would call them out!

If any CC buyers are net-savvy enough to have searched and come across stories about JSA, then they surely would have found the mountains of material against all of CC's forensic experts!

[HRBAKER]

had to chuckle too
my take is that it is more of a dig than a "baby step"

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

had to chuckle too
my take is that it is more of a dig than a "baby step"

Ditto, Jeff. Nothing of substance.

[RichardSimon]

The day we see them say that about their favorite authenticators is the day to celebrate.
But that statement certainly shows that they are reading Net54,,,
Hi Lee!!! Hi Scott!!! Have a nice day, NOT! .

[chaddurbin]

only in cc's world is JSA somehow inferior to the morales and tta's. at least they know who their breadwinners are.

[GrayGhost]

I find that HILARIOUS. Yes, there have been issues against the alphabet gang, but compared to the issues against SCAT. TTA, Chris " I will authenticate King Herods autograph for a price" Morales and others, it is like comparing an ant Hill to Mt Everest. Wow.

[travrosty]

well, they can't single out everyones favorite, but they got to start somewhere, they went with what they thought was the biggest problem. i say kudos for saying something, that's what people want, isn't it, for cc to tackle problem authentications?

Well they did, just because it wasn't everyone's favorite authenticator to hate doesn't mean they were wrong. Has anyone ever heard of Delehanty or Nimitz? Sal Bando or Thomas Sayers?

[thecatspajamas]

Originally Posted by travrosty

well, they can't single out everyones favorite, but they got to start somewhere, they went with what they thought was the biggest problem. i say kudos for saying something, that's what people want, isn't it, for cc to tackle problem authentications?

Well they did, just because it wasn't everyone's favorite authenticator to hate doesn't mean they were wrong. Has anyone ever heard of Delehanty or Nimitz? Sal Bando or Thomas Sayers?

You cannot seriously think this is their attempt to "tackle problem authentications" can you? It's humorous, given their past and present embracing of problem authentications and authenticators, but surely there are better ways for you to get your own digs in at JSA than to suggest that CC is cleaning up their game with this item description?

I think everyone who frequents these boards knows that you have a beef with JSA, but I don't think lowering yourself to the level of giving CC a pat on the back will gain any respect from anyone who is familiar with their practices. Personally, knowing your experience with boxing autos, I'd rather hear what you think of the Ali sig itself, as I have never felt comfortable with my own ability to judge his signatures.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by thecatspajamas

You cannot seriously think this is their attempt to "tackle problem authentications" can you? It's humorous, given their past and present embracing of problem authentications and authenticators, but surely there are better ways for you to get your own digs in at JSA than to suggest that CC is cleaning up their game with this item description?

I think everyone who frequents these boards knows that you have a beef with JSA, but I don't think lowering yourself to the level of giving CC a pat on the back will gain any respect from anyone who is familiar with their practices. Personally, knowing your experience with boxing autos, I'd rather hear what you think of the Ali sig itself, as I have never felt comfortable with my own ability to judge his signatures.

Maybe Travis can opine the below Muhammad Ali autographs that are presently listed on the Coach's Corner auction site headed by Scott Malack and Lee Trythall.

http://www.myccsa.com/Search.aspx?Se...muhammad%20ali

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by thecatspajamas

You cannot seriously think this is their attempt to "tackle problem authentications" can you? It's humorous, given their past and present embracing of problem authentications and authenticators, but surely there are better ways for you to get your own digs in at JSA than to suggest that CC is cleaning up their game with this item description?

I think everyone who frequents these boards knows that you have a beef with JSA, but I don't think lowering yourself to the level of giving CC a pat on the back will gain any respect from anyone who is familiar with their practices. Personally, knowing your experience with boxing autos, I'd rather hear what you think of the Ali sig itself, as I have never felt comfortable with my own ability to judge his signatures.

Maybe Travis is trying to lend credibility to Coach's Corner.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by travrosty

well, they can't single out everyones favorite, but they got to start somewhere, they went with what they thought was the biggest problem. i say kudos for saying something, that's what people want, isn't it, for cc to tackle problem authentications?

Well they did, just because it wasn't everyone's favorite authenticator to hate doesn't mean they were wrong. Has anyone ever heard of Delehanty or Nimitz? Sal Bando or Thomas Sayers?

Yeah, Travis.

CC-Travis.jpg

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by travrosty

Coaches corner starting to issue a disclaimer concerning authenticaton. It's a start. Baby steps.

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot.aspx?LotID=308175

So if Scott Malack and Lee Trythall find that Ali questionable, why don't they just remove it from their auction listing?

But in the meantime, they have no problem selling a pathetic Derek Jeter forgery like the one below.

CC-Travis-4.jpg

[travrosty]

i was just pointing out that they were STARTING to go after the problem authenticators, just like people wanted them to.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by travrosty

i was just pointing out that they were STARTING to go after the problem authenticators, just like people wanted them to.

No they aren't...if you ever see them question a Morales, Ted Taylor or Priddy cert then you can say they are STARTING...they are merely taking a dig at the guy who gets it right more often than not. If they were STARTING they'd start with the guys who get it wrong 99.9% of the time.

[GrayGhost]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

no they aren't...if you ever see them question a morales, ted taylor or priddy cert then you can say they are starting...they are merely taking a dig at the guy who gets it right more often than not. If they were starting they'd start with the guys who get it wrong 99.9% of the time.

+100

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

No they aren't...if you ever see them question a Morales, Ted Taylor or Priddy cert then you can say they are STARTING...they are merely taking a dig at the guy who gets it right more often than not. If they were STARTING they'd start with the guys who get it wrong 99.9% of the time.

This is so obvious, it seems a waste of time to even be debating it. Gee, let's go after the guys who are right 99% instead of the guys that are wrong 99% (with intent to deceive).

Rather than quibble over obvious topics, I would be more curious to know the motivation and origins of Travis' vendetta against Spence and PSA. At one time, they must have rejected a piece or two that were near and dear to his heart.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by perezfan

This is so obvious, it seems a waste of time to even be debating it. Gee, let's go after the guys who are right 99% instead of the guys that are wrong 99% (with intent to deceive).

Rather than quibble over obvious topics, I would be more curious to know the motivation and origins of Travis' vendetta against Spence and PSA. At one time, they must have rejected a piece or two that were near and dear to his heart.

I would take major issue with the "99% right" statement but I think Travis' anger is directed at the TPA's because they allege to have knowledge of boxing autographs and in reality they do not. They apparently have made many, many mistakes, one of which actually went to court, where the TPA was proven to be wrong.
Boxing in general is what is near and dear to Travis' heart.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

No they aren't...if you ever see them question a Morales, Ted Taylor or Priddy cert then you can say they are STARTING...they are merely taking a dig at the guy who gets it right more often than not. If they were STARTING they'd start with the guys who get it wrong 99.9% of the time.

Right you are Dan.
If they ever take a dig at their regular authenticators, I am gonna throw one big NYC party and all are invited.
Everyone on here knows I too have issues with the alphabet guys, but it is the height of hypocrisy to single out one of them and not even whisper about their own regulars.