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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: davidcycleback
(Not my pop) |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: Kevin Cummings
Yeah, but does he have a 1914 Baltimore News Babe Ruth? |
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Posted By: pete ullman
wow...quite cool!!!!! |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: davidcycleback
With that painting, they might my collection for packaging. |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)
Doesn't that left border look a little trimmed to anyone else? No wonder they didn't get it slabbed, it might only get put in an AUTH holder, then it might only be worth $3.5M......... |
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Posted By: Joe
Do you see the ghost image on the face? This could be the rare error painting. |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: Hal Lewis
Holy Cow! |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)
Hal, |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: David Vargha
Now I don't feel so bad about wasting my money on cardboard pictures of baseball players. That painting is a piece of crap! My daughter painted similar to that in her 3-4 year old "period". Give me a freaking break!! |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: zach
"Piece of Crap" wow that shows that you sure know your art. It maybe not what you enjoy or like but to many it is. Sometimes its not about the painting but who painted it, what it symbolizes etc. Your statement "That is a piece of crap" is the most ignorant thing I have heard today. You can say you dont like a piece and dont understand its value but until you major in art and know more than just the painting its self, the background of the work and how it was done please refrain from calling something a piece of crap. |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: tbob
If someone had offered me that painting for one of my E94 Cobbs I would have just laughed at them. Beauty definitely is in the eye of the beholder. We have a painting in our house by a French impressonist painter that we paid $6000 for and I wouldn't trade it for this one, I don't care if that one goes for $40 million... |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: zach
I agree with that beauty is in the eye of the beholder but the statement that this such painting is just a piece of crap is just ignorant. |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: Cat
David: |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: Cat
Zach: |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: zach
Are you trying to insult me ? If so its not working. BTW how do you plan to paint with highlighters ? You can draw with them but I doubt you can paint with them. |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: Anson
I'm submitting this piece from "The Ainsley Collection", entitled "Outside the lines." Preauction estimate of $3,500,000 - $5,000,000 |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: Cat
"Outside the Lines" has such meaningful symbolism. Where it says red it is actually green. Where it says green it is actually brown. This representation of our society of anarchy and the world of conflict is a satirical depiction of the lives we lead. |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: zach
According to you it is. I am not saying you can't say what you want and you can have your own opinion. I agree that that is great symbolism but I believe both pieces are art. Call it what you want and think what you want and that is what is great about hobbies, you can make up your own rules. But even after making up your own rules calling something a piece of crap is still ignorant. Lets get back to talking baseball, this is a baseball card board. |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: Julie Vognar
and that ain't bad... |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: Cat
Zach: |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: zach
Ignorant means a person who is lacking knowledge on a subject. What is harsh about that ? Nothing imo. I think calling something crap before knowing anything about it besides its appearance through a picture on a website is very ignorant. I didn't mean to sound harsh but as an artist myself when someone calls a piece of art crapy that they no nothing about it really offends me. |
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Posted By: cmoking
Here is my father's artwork: |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: zach
Wow. I love the way he works with reflections like that off of city scenes and buildings. VERY cool art work ! |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: David Vargha
I liken my assessment of "crap" to what the Supreme Court said about pornography -- I can't define "crap", but I sure know it when I see it. BTW -- my evaluation was intended to upset the apple cart of those who are so high-browed that they think that three bands of color makes some deep, meaningful statement about something or other. |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: zach
I didnt do it to call you a name. I said what you said was ignorant because imo it was a harsh judgement on a piece of work without knowledge of it. |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: zach
I'm not going to get into this but everyone has their opinions and im sure the art world is thinking the same thing...who would pay that much for a little guy on a piece of cardboard. |
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Posted By: Cobby33
Not taking any sides--but-- |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: David Vargha
My point exactly . . . |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: zach
I saw that too and that didnt come off as the point I was hearing. In that show im sure the paintings weren't called "crap" even by the art gurus. Have your opnions on what you like and what you dislike but before you call something such a harsh word as crap make sure to have some education on the piece before you classify it. |
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Posted By: Anson
Actually, the painting looks a lot like a positive home pregnancy test. |
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Posted By: Jay Miller
Cmoking--Your dad's work is fantastic. Are any of the pieces on display in the New York area? |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: Damian
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Posted By: Josh K.
King - your father's artwork is very nice. I saw a number of pieces I wouldnt mind hanging in my house (though probably not for the price I'd have to pay ) |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: cmoking
The originals all sold shortly after he painted them, with the exception of one that my mom has kept. Other than the one my mom has, I don't know where any of the originals are currently (I suspect almost all are in private collections), and don't have any idea about market value (I know very little about art other than my father's work). The prints were limited to about 500 each, and my family has a few left, but not many. I still remember how my dad would trade some of his work as barter for services with other people. I guess that's what artists can do. One time he took me to a Japanese restaurant that his friend owned, and he pointed to his painting on the wall. He then told me that the painting was in barter for 30 free meals at the restaurant. He told me he whipped up the painting in a few minutes after he struck the deal with the owner. What a life! |
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Posted By: RC McKenzie
In the copy room of my office I have an Ellsworth Kelly lithograph from 1970 entitled, "Orange over Black". My brother saw it and started pointing and laughing (at me and the lithograph). He said "I could have made that" |
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Posted By: DJ
I bet somewhere out there in an art forum, someone is probably talking about how stupid old pieces of paper are. |
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Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)
Yao"ch" - that stuff is schmoking good art... that is beautiful work! That kind of art is what I can appreciate. |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: DSGreen
I know very little about art but I think that the reflection series done by cmoking's father is amazing. |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: davidcycleback
I collect art and wrote a book on fine art, and would consider several baseball cards to be little works of art. The T206 Ty Cobb Portrait Green, for example. If a collector says a T3 or a 1952 Bowman common card is a work of art, I won't argue the issue. What is art is a personal thing. One of my only requirements for art is that it has to be sublime-- which sort of translates to "greater than the sum on it's parts." |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: Cat
If we were to have a poll on the works depicted in this thread, I would vote like this: |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: davidcycleback
My other rule for art is that it isn't defined by popular vote. I should point out I posted the Rothko painting simply due to the price tag. My neighbor who told me the story said he doesn't think much of Rothko either. He joked that the price tag shows that Rothko must have had a good agent. |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: jay behrens
Zach, I know and understand art a bit and still doesn't stop me from calling paintings/art I don't like "crap". |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: Julie Vognar
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: Brian C. Daniels
that Joan Miro was a famous Spanish cartoonist of which his cartoons were as famous as The Flintsones and that is partially why his art is teir one! Come on guys even Hannah and Barbera's autographs alone are worth some real coin~ |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: Steve
Csmoking I am impressed! |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: Hal Lewis
SO... |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: joe brennan
I was an art dealer in the 1990's and sold for many artists. Some studied under the great European Masters. True art is in the eye of the beholder, but artists that can make people come to life on canvas are the true masters. I still have many originals that I purchased because I liked them, (sounds very familiar for this site). One American artist that will always be my favorite and will forever be foreshadowed by Norman Rockwell as the greatist American Artist is Maxfield Parrish. His originals are way out of my price range, but his original prints from the 20's are still affordable. Check him out if you get the chance. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
One of Rothko's paintings sold at Christie's last night for $22.4 million. I don't think it was the same one as David cited. I guess he's more popular than Cracker Jacks. |
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O/T: Selling off Pop's Collection
Posted By: Hal Lewis
GOOD LORD! |
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