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Old 08-06-2019, 05:05 PM
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I'm curious Steven if you agree with your brother's statement:

"PWCC has sold hundreds of thousands of cards and the problematic ones are in the hundreds — or less than 1%.”

If not, how is this consistent with your presumption that his primary intention in getting involved is doing what is best for the hobby? I'm also curious if you think he believes his own statement?
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:11 PM
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Go BODA! Thanks for all your hard work. USA Today is major!
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:25 PM
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Of course I’m not privy to the inner workings of PWCC but from what I have seen, no I would not agree with that statement. What he believes I don’t know because I haven’t asked him. I do know everyone wants arrests made, people in jail, and of course civil law suits filed already, but that’s not how these things work. Somehow though the issue has received national exposure. Do you think a big mouth like Adam Warshaw who pounds his chest on his website that he has recovered over $3M for his clients since 1996 had anything to do with that? Yes $3M in 23 years. Jeff does that in a matter of months. If I were him I’d bust my ass to get Brent the best possible result he can and let you all take care of the rest of the problems yourself. You can let Adam Warshaw and David James lead the charge.

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I'm curious Steven if you agree with your brother's statement:

"PWCC has sold hundreds of thousands of cards and the problematic ones are in the hundreds — or less than 1%.”

If not, how is this consistent with your presumption that his primary intention in getting involved is doing what is best for the hobby? I'm also curious if you think he believes his own statement?
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:37 PM
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Of course I’m not privy to the inner workings of PWCC but from what I have seen, no I would not agree with that statement. What he believes I don’t know because I haven’t asked him. I do know everyone wants arrests made, people in jail, and of course civil law suits filed already, but that’s not how these things work. Somehow though the issue has received national exposure. Do you think a big mouth like Adam Warshaw who pounds his chest on his website that he has recovered over $3M for his clients since 1996 had anything to do with that? Yes $3M in 23 years. Jeff does that in a matter of months. If I were him I’d bust my ass to get Brent the best possible result he can and let you all take care of the rest of the problems yourself. You can let Adam Warshaw and David James lead the charge.
Thank you for responding Steven. I agree with what you wrote in this line: "If I were him I’d bust my ass to get Brent the best possible result he can and let you all take care of the rest of the problems yourself." My guess is that will happen. It's the basis for my and others' concern of inconsistency between the stated motive for representation -- to affect substantive positive change in the hobby --and what the likely result will be...little to no change.

As for your question regarding Adam, the answer is no, but that would also be true of me and most others. Some people, like Peter Spaeth and BODA have stepped up and they deserve our respect. I could care less what Adam's salary is. I could also care less about aspects of your brother's personal life. I don't think either should be discussed on a message board about baseball cards.
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:46 PM
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Well, that escalated quickly.

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Old 08-06-2019, 05:47 PM
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I try to keep these topics on point and to have civil banter even when we all may disagree. Unfortunately for a small number that is too much to ask and they continue to bring things to the gutter so I am forced to as well. At this point I really don’t know what Jeff is doing but if I were him I would represent my client as vociferously as possible and let you all figure out the rest. I would imagine if we took an honest poll of how many here have cheated on their spouse no one would be surprised at the results. And thank you Ryan, your heart is in the right place.

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Thank you for responding Steven. I agree with what you wrote in this line: "If I were him I’d bust my ass to get Brent the best possible result he can and let you all take care of the rest of the problems yourself." My guess is that will happen. It's the basis for my and others' concern of inconsistency between the stated motive for representation -- to affect substantive positive change in the hobby --and what the likely result will be...little to no change.

As for your question regarding Adam, the answer is no, but that would also be true of me and most others. Some people, like Peter Spaeth and BODA have stepped up and they deserve our respect. I could care less what Adam's salary is. I could also care less about aspects of your brother's personal life. I don't think either should be discussed on a message board about baseball cards.
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:57 PM
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Everyone needs to cut out the personal attacks. Lets try to stick to cards and hobby related stuff. There is plenty to talk about on those subjects. Thanks
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Old 08-06-2019, 06:01 PM
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Thanks Leon, but no need to stop it on my account or my brothers.

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Old 08-06-2019, 05:58 PM
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Adam is first-rate in all respects and a tribute to the hobby.
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