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Old 11-06-2022, 04:44 PM
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In the last few years, some big names have gotten a lot of attention among prospectors and flippers. Here they are with the year of their official RCs. Pure guesswork still, but any ranking as to how they will end up?

2017 Judge
2018 Soto
Acuna
Ohtani
2019 Vlad Jr.
Tatis
2020 Yordan
2021 or 2022 depending on definition Wander
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Old 11-06-2022, 05:11 PM
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In the last few years, some big names have gotten a lot of attention among prospectors and flippers. Here they are with the year of their official RCs. Pure guesswork still, but any ranking as to how they will end up?

2017 Judge
2018 Soto
Acuna
Ohtani
2019 Vlad Jr.
Tatis
2020 Yordan
2021 or 2022 depending on definition Wander
I think Soto will end up being the best from this group. I'm not sure how much you buy into advanced metrics, but this past season, he had a "down" year and still compiled close to 6 WAR. Still managed to lead the league in walks and had over a .400 OBP. His ability to get on base is elite.

Acuna has displayed durability issues. He's only ever played a full season once. I think the talent is there, but he needs to prove that he can stay healthy.

Ohtani is a marvel. He's the most talented of this group. I think that's a fair assumption since he's shown the ability to be an elite hitter and an elite pitcher. My main question with him is how long he is able to do both, at a high level. He's already entering his age 28 season. Certainly exciting to watch. Age is something that Judge is also fighting against, and I do not think he will ever produce a season like he did, this year, ever again.

Yordan and Vlad are both incredible hitters, with their best seasons to come at the plate. I think both of them run into the issue that they don't play the field well and thus have to make up for it with their bat. I'm interested to see how Yordan's knees hold up as he's already experienced issues with them and he's still very young.

We'll get a good grasp of what Wander is capable of, heading into year three, assuming he is able to put together a fully healthy campaign.

Tatis I will decline to answer. He got popped for PED's. He could hit 600 Home Runs and still find himself not being elected to the Hall of Fame.
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Old 11-06-2022, 05:22 PM
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I'm sick of Acuna, not because I don't think he's talented, but mainly because I'm sick of the sycophants on Blowout who never tire of posting about him and just keep buying seemingly thousands of his cards even as his on field sinks. I see another Strawberry or someone of that ilk.

Soto by his standards had just an awful year although his metrics were I guess OK. Don't know where he's headed.

Vlad, not a big fan..

Tatis, was a big fan.

Ohtani I think will burn out relatively young but still a marvel for the ages.
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Good question. If you are talking sycophants on Blowout I think itís much more geared towards Soto than Acuna. There was a time this year when the Soto thread was celebrating walks. It just as bad. The only thing Soto and Acuna got going is their age. I think they still can bounce back. Vlad I think will be solid for a few more years, same with Judge. Yordan I see getting hurt and Franco I donít see him doing much.


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In the last few years, some big names have gotten a lot of attention among prospectors and flippers. Here they are with the year of their official RCs. Pure guesswork still, but any ranking as to how they will end up?

2017 Judge
2018 Soto
Acuna
Ohtani
2019 Vlad Jr.
Tatis
2020 Yordan
2021 or 2022 depending on definition Wander

Judge - Very big, very injury prone, started old. Whoever signs him will lose on the deal. Great talent.

Soto - Projects well. His average plummeted this year and may be a red flag. We shall see. He's only 23, could be a true great.

Acuna - Frequently appears to not hustle. Big decline this year. Braves still got him for a steal, but he may not last that long as a big name.

Ohtani - Probably short career, injury prone. Absurd generational talent. It is something that he and Trout are probably the two best talents and on the same loser team.

Vlad Jr. - Fat guys tend not to last and crash early. His listed 6'2 240 is in the obesity range. It does not appear to be a fit muscled physique. I would not expect a Hall career or sign him to a 10 year deal. 4 years, yes.

Tatis - Already in trouble for immaturity and steroids. Haven enjoyed some of the modern guys freaking out that they may not get rich on him after all.

Yordan - 368 games, 187 OPS+. He looks legit to me at this point, but it's so very early.

Wander - Too early to have any basis to say anything besides random guessing.

As to which one you can prospect on for money: none of them. That ship has sailed. They would have to turn as good as Trout has for their to be any way to long term make money off them.
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It's such a freaking hard game to sustain excellence for a decade or more. So many prospects just turn into cauti0onary tales.
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Good points by G1911.

I think the best of this bunch would be Yordan Alvarez.......But then again, I always lose in my fantasy baseball leagues.

Actually, I wo this year.......woohoo!
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Greg Weissert.

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I think Wander will be a beast. Obviously early and he hasn't done much yet, but I see a 300 hitter who might make a run at 3,000 hits.

He also has the biggest upside in terms of buying low and selling high later. His injury has kept his cards down (comparatively) while Julio and Bobby Witt soar.

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I think Wander will be a beast. Obviously early and he hasn't done much yet, but I see a 300 hitter who might make a run at 3,000 hits.

He also has the biggest upside in terms of buying low and selling high later. His injury has kept his cards down (comparatively) while Julio and Bobby Witt soar.
I agree with this. Iíve been snapping up limited Wander RCís at a fraction of Julio Rodriguez and Witt. I honestly think Wander and Devers are very similar and are two of the more underrated hitters in the hobby because they arenít guys that will chase 40-50 homers a season. They are both double machines.
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I agree with this. Iíve been snapping up limited Wander RCís at a fraction of Julio Rodriguez and Witt. I honestly think Wander and Devers are very similar and are two of the more underrated hitters in the hobby because they arenít guys that will chase 40-50 homers a season. They are both double machines.
I loved Devers until his second half this year.
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I think Wander will develop into a very good player who hits 300 to 320 every year, with 90 to 100 runs, 15 to 20 homers, and 15 to 20 steals year in year out.

A slightly better Jeter if you will.
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I think Wander will develop into a very good player who hits 300 to 320 every year, with 90 to 100 runs, 15 to 20 homers, and 15 to 20 steals year in year out.

A slightly better Jeter if you will.
The only problem with this line of thinking is that no one is better than Jeter. No one!
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