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Old 08-27-2019, 11:15 AM
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Is this the photo used to create the Premium (with some artistic liberties) or just a very similar one?

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Old 08-27-2019, 11:46 AM
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Is this the photo used to create the Premium (with some artistic liberties) or just a very similar one?

I'm guessing the latter Jeff, as there are a number of differentiating characteristics between the two.

Here is the photo on the right, done by Bain, in a Memory Lane auction: https://memorylaneinc.com/site/bids/...e?itemid=43498

From the same photo shoot: https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/c...umbnail-071515

In both examples, Henry Lee has dated it to the 1900's based on the paper/stamps/other features. The Memory Lane description dates it to spring training 1902/1903, though I am not sure what that is based on. The person who likely wrote the description (Joe T./VintageClout on net54) is very knowledgeable overall and about Matty. Probably worth a follow up communication with him.

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Old 08-27-2019, 01:41 PM
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Is this the photo used to create the Premium (with some artistic liberties) or just a very similar one?

Jeff,

The Matty Type 1 Bain image was taken in Bain’s famous photo shoot in early April 1902 (I actually own that type 1 photo). The periodical supplement is 1901 - 2 different images.

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Old 08-27-2019, 01:45 PM
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The Matty Type 1 Bain image was taken in Bain’s famous photo shoot in early April 1902 (I actually own that type 1 photo). The periodical supplement is 1901 - 2 different images.

Joe T.
Awesome, thanks Joe! How were you able to pinpoint the April 1902 date? Also, do you know where the Bain photo session took place?
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Old 08-27-2019, 02:53 PM
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Awesome, thanks Joe! How were you able to pinpoint the April 1902 date? Also, do you know where the Bain photo session took place?
Jeff - there were 5 different photos of matty (that I know of) taken that day and one of the pitching images I previously owned has an April 2, 1902 date on the verso. I’m not 100% sure where these Spring training images were taken. It
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Baseball Almanac says their 1902 spring training was in Savannah:

https://www.baseball-almanac.com/tea...sites-nl.shtml
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Baseball Almanac says their 1902 spring training was in Savannah:
I am pretty sure that they trained at home in New York in 1902.
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Jeff - there were 5 different photos of matty (that I know of) taken that day and one of the pitching images I previously owned has an April 2, 1902 date on the verso. I’m not 100% sure where these Spring training images were taken. It
Joe, which image from that day am I missing here?

Do you have an image of the back with the April 2, 1902 stamp?

Not sure why the images are all wonky. they are all the same size on my computer when I upload them.
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They definitely had Spring Training at the Polo Grounds in 1902. So is that the Polo Grounds in the Bain photo session?

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Joe, which image from that day am I missing here?

Do you have an image of the back with the April 2, 1902 stamp?

Not sure why the images are all wonky. they are all the same size on my computer when I upload them.
Here you go Kevin.....don’t have the back scan right now but I’ll find it. Someone wrote April 1, 1902 on the verso (not April 2nd). Sorry I let this one go!
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Great images
As for the size difference in photos in our system if you look at the size of the scan being uploaded the really small ones are less than 20kb, They need to be about 60kb-85lb to look normal sized. I often have to re-save an image to get the correct size before I try to upload it. Check the size of the scan before uploading, if too small, work with it to make it larger. before uploading


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Joe, which image from that day am I missing here?

Do you have an image of the back with the April 2, 1902 stamp?

Not sure why the images are all wonky. they are all the same size on my computer when I upload them.
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