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T206 shappe/sharpe error
Posted By: nbrazil
Can anyone provide a reasonable estimate of the population T206 sharpe/shappe error cards? I've read some past threads about this error card...and it seems like there is a general disagreement over whether to consider this card a true error. I get the feeling that the majority of T206 collectors do not consider this card a necessity to "complete" the set. True? |
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T206 shappe/sharpe error
Posted By: Marc S.
that most T-206 collectors do not consider the Shappe to be a true variation, and thus do not collect it as a part of their set. |
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T206 shappe/sharpe error
Posted By: Joe D.
It not an error. |
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T206 shappe/sharpe error
Posted By: fkw
I agree......Shappe a printing flaw, not a true error like a card where they actually went and purposely changed the design (ie. Magie/Magee, Doyle). |
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T206 shappe/sharpe error
Posted By: George
Hello, |
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T206 shappe/sharpe error
Posted By: MVSNYC
i agree, they are printing flaws, not true error cards. and yes, there are some that are rarer than others, and they command prices accordingly. |
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T206 shappe/sharpe error
Posted By: Matt
"I'm not sure if this is a rhetorical question" |
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T206 shappe/sharpe error
Posted By: barrysloate
While nobody knows the true population of the Shappe error, it's probably safe to say there are more fake ones than real ones. |
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T206 shappe/sharpe error
Posted By: nbrazil
can you make an educated guess on how many sharpe/shappe cards are out there? thanks |
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T206 shappe/sharpe error
Posted By: Martin Neal
I agree that there are probably more fakes than authentic ones although I can't recall ever seeing a fake. Psa used to grade them but they haven't listed them in their pop report for a couple of years now. The last I recall, there were three or four listed with a Psa 4 being the highest graded. Sgc doesn't list them, but it seems to me that I have seen at least one other that had graded by another company. |
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T206 shappe/sharpe error
Posted By: Kevin Saucier
One is doctored and one is real. A side to side comparison. |
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T206 shappe/sharpe error
Posted By: barrysloate
Kevin- your illustration shows just how easy it is to doctor that card. That's why I feel it should not be worth much of a premium at all. |
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T206 shappe/sharpe error
Posted By: Martin Neal
Let me say, I appreciate the work Kevin has done showing us the slippery path we follow when purchasing rare t206 print defects. At least, he has made us aware of these alterations and hopefully, more diligent in our inspections of these type cards. However, the example shown here falls short of convincing me of that peril. I would certainly hope that SGC or Psa (if still grading these) would know which one was the altered card. I can tell even without the use of a 10x loupe. I would love to see the altered card in person and with a loupe. I am not convinced you can remove ink from a card without some evidence of its removal discernable under high magnification. I am still an unbeliever at this point. That could change, but I would have to see the altered card in person. |
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T206 shappe/sharpe error
Posted By: Kevin Saucier
"At least, he has made us aware of these alterations and hopefully, more diligent in our inspections of these type cards." |
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T206 shappe/sharpe error
Posted By: Kevin Saucier
"However, the example shown here falls short of convincing me of that peril. I would certainly hope that SGC or Psa (if still grading these) would know which one was the altered card. I can tell even without the use of a 10x loupe." |
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T206 shappe/sharpe error
Posted By: Marty Ogelvie
Guilty as charged. Although I did NOT email you Kevin, I picked the card on the right as being altered... DOHHH! |
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T206 shappe/sharpe error
Posted By: leon
The print errors, a dot here or a dot there...or a letter with part of it gone, never really did much for me....The Magie error has some weight behind it as it's been a known one for a long time....Nice work on this one Kevin....regards |
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T206 shappe/sharpe error
Posted By: Marc S.
since it can't easily be faked given the difference in width between the EE and the IE. |
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