NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Postwar Sportscard Forums > Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #701  
Old 10-31-2016, 10:25 AM
bnorth's Avatar
bnorth bnorth is online now
Ben North
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 10,226
Default

Got this awesome 73 Topps Al Kaline Band Aid card in the mail today thanks to a great forum member.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg kalinebandaid.jpg (77.5 KB, 400 views)
File Type: jpg kalinebandaid1.jpg (74.2 KB, 403 views)
Reply With Quote
  #702  
Old 11-08-2016, 04:51 AM
swarmee's Avatar
swarmee swarmee is online now
J0hn Raff3rty
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Niceville FL
Posts: 7,117
Default


1973 Topps #264 - Checklist
Courtesy of COMC.com

Bobby at #145 scratched out. Multiple cards on COMC show this flaw.
__________________
--
PWCC: The Fish Stinks From the Head
PSA: Regularly Get Cheated
BGS: Can't detect trimming on modern
SGC: Closed auto authentication business
JSA: Approved same T206 Autos before SGC
Oh, what a difference a year makes.
Reply With Quote
  #703  
Old 11-08-2016, 09:05 AM
ALR-bishop ALR-bishop is offline
Al Richter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 9,150
Default Cls

Good one John. I know there are at least two version of every CL in every 1960s sets, I think mostly because they are all DPs. Most differences are minor. Not sure if that holds true for all the 70s sets, but have several
Reply With Quote
  #704  
Old 11-11-2016, 08:18 AM
savedfrommyspokes's Avatar
savedfrommyspokes savedfrommyspokes is offline
member
Larry More.y
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,010
Default Green Uniform???

At first glance, it appears that some kid at some point neatly colored in this jersey a green color. However, the only thing I can not figure out is how they were able to color the jersey and not color over the facsimile autograph? Looking closely at the card, the facsimile auto is clearly on top of the green and not the other way around.

Any ideas?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 2.jpg (75.3 KB, 343 views)
Reply With Quote
  #705  
Old 11-11-2016, 08:27 AM
ALR-bishop ALR-bishop is offline
Al Richter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 9,150
Default colored jersey

Something similar from 1972 ?

Reply With Quote
  #706  
Old 11-11-2016, 03:46 PM
JollyElm's Avatar
JollyElm JollyElm is online now
D@rrΣn Hu.ghΣs
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Cardboard Land
Posts: 7,802
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes View Post
At first glance, it appears that some kid at some point neatly colored in this jersey a green color. However, the only thing I can not figure out is how they were able to color the jersey and not color over the facsimile autograph? Looking closely at the card, the facsimile auto is clearly on top of the green and not the other way around.

Any ideas?
The thing that clearly points to an artistic kid in my mind is the fact the colored ink (or whatever) crosses over the white border at left and at bottom. If it was intentionally printed this way at the factory, that shouldn't have happened. I know, I know, some people will say that sometimes it happens that way, I get it. But my money is on the kid.
__________________
All the cool kids love my YouTube Channel:
Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land

https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm

Looking to trade? Here's my bucket:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706

“I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.”
Casey Stengel

Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s.

Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
Reply With Quote
  #707  
Old 11-12-2016, 06:58 AM
savedfrommyspokes's Avatar
savedfrommyspokes savedfrommyspokes is offline
member
Larry More.y
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,010
Default

Al, this "coloring" is mostly limited to the jersey, similar to the limited coloring on just the glove of this 70 Lockwood card.

As Darren points out, the coloring goes over into the white border area. It also goes over the "Pirates" on the jersey on the front. The lack of uniformity in the color makes me skeptical, even though the facsimile auto appears to be over the greenish-grey color.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1.jpg (78.5 KB, 318 views)
Reply With Quote
  #708  
Old 12-10-2016, 12:35 PM
Sliphorn Sliphorn is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 170
Default 1962 Santo #170

I noticed a right angle line at the top right in this card. I checked COMC an many eBay and they all have it. Has anyone seen this withOUT this line? It only occurs on the non-greenie.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg s-l1600.jpg (74.1 KB, 288 views)
Reply With Quote
  #709  
Old 12-10-2016, 04:56 PM
JollyElm's Avatar
JollyElm JollyElm is online now
D@rrΣn Hu.ghΣs
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Cardboard Land
Posts: 7,802
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sliphorn View Post
I noticed a right angle line at the top right in this card. I checked COMC an many eBay and they all have it. Has anyone seen this withOUT this line? It only occurs on the non-greenie.
That line up there is one of the tells showing that this is the 'normal' version of the card and not a green tint. (If you look closely, a similar area appears in the top left area, too.) It seems that Topps used a lot of scotch tape (that's what it looks like to me) when laying out the sets that year and many, many of the cards show pieces of it here and there. Almost none of the GT cards have these tape problems. Just a few. And no cards have the same piece(s) of tape appearing in both the regular and GT versions.
__________________
All the cool kids love my YouTube Channel:
Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land

https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm

Looking to trade? Here's my bucket:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706

“I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.”
Casey Stengel

Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s.

Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.

Last edited by JollyElm; 12-10-2016 at 04:59 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #710  
Old 12-10-2016, 05:06 PM
JollyElm's Avatar
JollyElm JollyElm is online now
D@rrΣn Hu.ghΣs
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Cardboard Land
Posts: 7,802
Default

It's most prevalent in the Cunningham card…

Layout 1_Page 49.jpg
__________________
All the cool kids love my YouTube Channel:
Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land

https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm

Looking to trade? Here's my bucket:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706

“I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.”
Casey Stengel

Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s.

Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
Reply With Quote
  #711  
Old 12-11-2016, 10:21 AM
ALR-bishop ALR-bishop is offline
Al Richter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 9,150
Default

Great stuff Darren
Reply With Quote
  #712  
Old 12-11-2016, 02:44 PM
steve B steve B is offline
Steve Birmingham
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: eastern Mass.
Posts: 8,229
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JollyElm View Post
That line up there is one of the tells showing that this is the 'normal' version of the card and not a green tint. (If you look closely, a similar area appears in the top left area, too.) It seems that Topps used a lot of scotch tape (that's what it looks like to me) when laying out the sets that year and many, many of the cards show pieces of it here and there. Almost none of the GT cards have these tape problems. Just a few. And no cards have the same piece(s) of tape appearing in both the regular and GT versions.
That's exactly what it is, Scotch tape.

The color separation negatives were scotch taped to the mask, a big sheet of opaque paper, to make what was essentially a huge negative used to make the plates. Sloppy work let the tape show on the image.

It's also on a lot of 81 Fleer.

Steve B
Reply With Quote
  #713  
Old 12-11-2016, 10:44 PM
JollyElm's Avatar
JollyElm JollyElm is online now
D@rrΣn Hu.ghΣs
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Cardboard Land
Posts: 7,802
Default

Perhaps the most egregious display of a wayward piece of tape is found on the Babe Ruth Special card #142, right above the red book. They didn't exactly try to hide it...

s-l1600-12.jpg
__________________
All the cool kids love my YouTube Channel:
Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land

https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm

Looking to trade? Here's my bucket:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706

“I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.”
Casey Stengel

Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s.

Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
Reply With Quote
  #714  
Old 12-12-2016, 07:02 AM
Zach Wheat Zach Wheat is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,776
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ALR-bishop View Post
Good catch Irv. I have picked up similar border hick ups for Snider ( 37), Woodling ( 99), Scheib ( 116), Bowles ( 128) and Dobson ( 254). Some of those, Snider,, Woodling and Scheib for sure, were listed as variants by Huggins in their 1952 Super Set auction ( 579 cards) a couple of years back.

They are all recurring print defects rather than true variations, but fun to add to the set anyway

The wing tip along upper left black border seems common on all, but here is another recurring defect on that card

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191944887729

The Campos Top Border variation seems to have this variation also. A small percentage of the full border cards appear not have a full border.
Reply With Quote
  #715  
Old 12-12-2016, 09:53 AM
Sliphorn Sliphorn is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 170
Default Coogan

Here is a closeup of three Coogans showing different hiccups.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1952 #87 Coogan (3).jpg (77.9 KB, 299 views)
Reply With Quote
  #716  
Old 12-13-2016, 06:03 AM
irv's Avatar
irv irv is offline
D@le Irv*n
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Ontario, Canada.
Posts: 6,779
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zach Wheat View Post
The Campos Top Border variation seems to have this variation also. A small percentage of the full border cards appear not have a full border.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sliphorn View Post
Here is a closeup of three Coogans showing different hiccups.
They all look like something was on the printer (dirt/dust/lint) when they were printed.

Not sure what happened to the Campos with a large section of the top border missing though?
Reply With Quote
  #717  
Old 12-13-2016, 09:30 AM
savedfrommyspokes's Avatar
savedfrommyspokes savedfrommyspokes is offline
member
Larry More.y
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,010
Default 1968 TOPPS 282 Rick Monday

Speaking of border breaks, here is a limited but recurring (right) border break that I have not noticed before.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 291.jpg (78.5 KB, 276 views)
File Type: jpg 68 MONDAY.jpg (77.7 KB, 277 views)
Reply With Quote
  #718  
Old 12-13-2016, 05:58 PM
Sliphorn Sliphorn is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 170
Default Observation

Are my eyes deceiving me or do the Spahn cards with the blue mark have his face darker than the ones that do not? Any reason for this, if so? The three cards on the right vertically all have blue dashes while the ones on the left do not. The three birthdate versions are present with 1931 at top, obscured 1931 in the middle, and the correct 1921 at the bottom.

More mysteries.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1959 #40 Spahn OV(6).jpg (82.5 KB, 271 views)
Reply With Quote
  #719  
Old 12-13-2016, 07:12 PM
Cliff Bowman's Avatar
Cliff Bowman Cliff Bowman is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Near Atlanta
Posts: 2,844
Default

1975 Hostess #48 Carl Yastrzemski "outfield" and "infield" variations. The "infield" version is much more difficult to find, but I don't think it is as rare as the corrected cards of Doug Rader and Burt Hooton.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Hostess Yaz.jpg (77.4 KB, 277 views)
Reply With Quote
  #720  
Old 12-14-2016, 05:57 PM
Sliphorn Sliphorn is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 170
Default 1957 #406 Hale

This smudge on his left cheek is recurring and there are a few of these on COMC (two for sure) and eBay (at least one-my eyes aren't too great).
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1957 #406 Hale (3) copy.jpg (77.1 KB, 257 views)

Last edited by Sliphorn; 12-14-2016 at 05:59 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #721  
Old 01-04-2017, 10:53 AM
savedfrommyspokes's Avatar
savedfrommyspokes savedfrommyspokes is offline
member
Larry More.y
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,010
Default

Similar to the 57 "Bakep", these Buhl cards have some of the same characteristics as the Bakep card....some bleeding of the red into the ball and a letter in the name partially obscured(Bob's middle initial "R"). As with the Bakep, there appears to be varying degrees of red in the ball and the amount of the "R." that is obscured.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 76.jpg (78.8 KB, 468 views)
File Type: jpg 57 BUHL A.jpg (72.0 KB, 468 views)
Reply With Quote
  #722  
Old 01-21-2017, 02:11 PM
Sliphorn Sliphorn is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 170
Default 1964 #45 Pappas

Here is a new twist on this card. Notice that there is a white shadow around his ear on one version. There are a few of these on eBay and COMC and I just bought three to prove the variation. It should be easy to find.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1964 #45 Pappas Ear.jpg (75.5 KB, 434 views)
Reply With Quote
  #723  
Old 01-31-2017, 12:23 PM
savedfrommyspokes's Avatar
savedfrommyspokes savedfrommyspokes is offline
member
Larry More.y
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,010
Default 1961 tOPPS 121 ELI GRBA

I noticed this 61 Grba card with varying degrees of missing border along the right edge. My first thought was what does the card to the right look like, no luck though, the Grba card is on the sheet's right edge.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 157.jpg (74.8 KB, 397 views)
File Type: jpg 61 121 B.jpg (25.2 KB, 396 views)
File Type: jpg 61 UNHCUT.jpg (85.0 KB, 393 views)
Reply With Quote
  #724  
Old 01-31-2017, 06:10 PM
1963Topps Set 1963Topps Set is offline
Tom
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: America
Posts: 1,140
Default 1961 Topps

How about these?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 001.jpg (76.9 KB, 390 views)
Reply With Quote
  #725  
Old 01-31-2017, 06:13 PM
swarmee's Avatar
swarmee swarmee is online now
J0hn Raff3rty
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Niceville FL
Posts: 7,117
Default

They look like they're missing a black color pass.
__________________
--
PWCC: The Fish Stinks From the Head
PSA: Regularly Get Cheated
BGS: Can't detect trimming on modern
SGC: Closed auto authentication business
JSA: Approved same T206 Autos before SGC
Oh, what a difference a year makes.
Reply With Quote
  #726  
Old 01-31-2017, 06:13 PM
savedfrommyspokes's Avatar
savedfrommyspokes savedfrommyspokes is offline
member
Larry More.y
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,010
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1963Topps Set View Post
How about these?


Very nice Tom...blackless and nearly blackless.
Reply With Quote
  #727  
Old 01-31-2017, 06:20 PM
1963Topps Set 1963Topps Set is offline
Tom
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: America
Posts: 1,140
Default 1956 Topps

How about these overprints?
Reply With Quote
  #728  
Old 01-31-2017, 06:26 PM
1963Topps Set 1963Topps Set is offline
Tom
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: America
Posts: 1,140
Default '56 Topps

Second attempt
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 003.jpg (81.9 KB, 384 views)
Reply With Quote
  #729  
Old 02-01-2017, 09:44 PM
Cliff Bowman's Avatar
Cliff Bowman Cliff Bowman is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Near Atlanta
Posts: 2,844
Default

There is a pretty cool 1959 Topps Venezuelan currently on eBay, it's a Gene Green missing all of the green ink on the back of the card.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg s-l1600tv.jpg (68.2 KB, 364 views)
Reply With Quote
  #730  
Old 02-10-2017, 05:35 PM
Sliphorn Sliphorn is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 170
Default 1957 #394 Arroyo

I have the one in the scan with the normal one and found this one on COMC, proving it is not a one off.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Luis-Arroyo.jpg (70.3 KB, 331 views)
File Type: jpg 1957 #394 Arroyo RV.jpg (81.2 KB, 332 views)
Reply With Quote
  #731  
Old 02-12-2017, 12:49 PM
Sliphorn Sliphorn is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 170
Default 1958 Free Felt Initial Card

On this card, you will notice at the left of the off-focus version that most of the phrase "GET YOUR INITIAL FREE!" is present. On the back of the cards (both are ON focus) that phrase exists at the top. I did not scan the back but can, if needed. I am curious about this card. Was the card double-printed with one version turned over so the phrase is next to the obverse of the other? Has anyone obtained an uncut sheet of 1958 Topps Football cards?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1958 Felt Intiial FB.jpg (82.8 KB, 395 views)
Reply With Quote
  #732  
Old 02-16-2017, 02:35 AM
JollyElm's Avatar
JollyElm JollyElm is online now
D@rrΣn Hu.ghΣs
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Cardboard Land
Posts: 7,802
Default

Here's an odd pair of variations. 1970 card #401, Giants Rookies, comes in the 'regular' version (not shown), plus (top) with a black 'pinhole' beside the 'G' in 'Giants' and (bottom) a UFO buzzing above the baseball in Harrell's hand…

1970giantsvariations.jpg
__________________
All the cool kids love my YouTube Channel:
Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land

https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm

Looking to trade? Here's my bucket:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706

“I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.”
Casey Stengel

Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s.

Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
Reply With Quote
  #733  
Old 02-16-2017, 04:54 AM
pherbener's Avatar
pherbener pherbener is offline
Paul Herbener
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Pa.
Posts: 1,043
Default

Here's one of my favorites! Griffith missing the ti. I think I've seen only 4-5 of these.

Griffith Missing "ti" version by Paul Herbener, on Flickr
__________________
https://www.flickr.com/photos/137748538@N02/albums Successful transactions with Sycks22, Vintageloz, jim, zachclose21, shamus, Chris Counts, YankeeFan Snapolit1 and many more.
Reply With Quote
  #734  
Old 02-19-2017, 03:00 PM
Sliphorn Sliphorn is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 170
Default 1963 #133 Freese

Notice in the left version that the bat has gray in it. This is recurring and some are on COMC and eBay currently.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1963 #133 Freese (3) .jpg (83.9 KB, 335 views)
Reply With Quote
  #735  
Old 02-19-2017, 05:26 PM
1963Topps Set 1963Topps Set is offline
Tom
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: America
Posts: 1,140
Default '63 Topps error

Can anyone explain this one?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 001.jpg (75.4 KB, 324 views)
Reply With Quote
  #736  
Old 02-19-2017, 05:33 PM
bnorth's Avatar
bnorth bnorth is online now
Ben North
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 10,226
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1963Topps Set View Post
Can anyone explain this one?
That is an awesome print offset. They are from when the press is getting set up and not properly adjusted yet. Most left out the back door and very few with a print offset that big left the factory in a pack.

Those are among my favorite cards to collect.
Reply With Quote
  #737  
Old 02-19-2017, 05:43 PM
1963Topps Set 1963Topps Set is offline
Tom
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: America
Posts: 1,140
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bnorth View Post
That is an awesome print offset. They are from when the press is getting set up and not properly adjusted yet. Most left out the back door and very few with a print offset that big left the factory in a pack.

Those are among my favorite cards to collect.
I would love to see other examples like this.
Reply With Quote
  #738  
Old 02-19-2017, 06:11 PM
bnorth's Avatar
bnorth bnorth is online now
Ben North
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 10,226
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1963Topps Set View Post
I would love to see other examples like this.
Here are a few of mine with different amounts of print offset.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Cesar-Gutierrez-Rich-Robertson.jpg (66.7 KB, 317 views)
File Type: jpg speaker.jpg (78.0 KB, 319 views)
File Type: jpg donmossi.jpg (74.3 KB, 318 views)
File Type: jpg mantlePO.jpg (78.0 KB, 319 views)
File Type: jpg spahn.jpg (54.5 KB, 318 views)
Reply With Quote
  #739  
Old 03-04-2017, 01:01 PM
savedfrommyspokes's Avatar
savedfrommyspokes savedfrommyspokes is offline
member
Larry More.y
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,010
Default

Here is a missing print (on back) on a known variation...2 for the price of 1:
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 2.jpg (78.5 KB, 285 views)
File Type: jpg 1.jpg (77.7 KB, 285 views)
Reply With Quote
  #740  
Old 03-04-2017, 01:12 PM
savedfrommyspokes's Avatar
savedfrommyspokes savedfrommyspokes is offline
member
Larry More.y
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,010
Default Yellowless??

Came across this card, it appears to be "yellow-less"....my expectation/experience would be for the red to fade before the yellow and since I am not seeing any fading on the red, I feel this "yellow-less" state of this card is due to factory print issues versus post factory fading.

The copy on the right's red is fairly close to the red on the left's copy, so if there was fading involved, the red on the left copy should appear much more faded than the right copy.

Anyone else seen another "yellow-less" 58 Topps card?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 4.jpg (78.1 KB, 285 views)
File Type: jpg 58 101.jpg (77.7 KB, 284 views)
Reply With Quote
  #741  
Old 03-04-2017, 02:41 PM
ALR-bishop ALR-bishop is offline
Al Richter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 9,150
Default

Neat card. Here in Cairns no one has seen anything like it. They want to know if Bobby plays cricket
Reply With Quote
  #742  
Old 03-04-2017, 02:51 PM
bnorth's Avatar
bnorth bnorth is online now
Ben North
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 10,226
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes View Post
Came across this card, it appears to be "yellow-less"....my expectation/experience would be for the red to fade before the yellow and since I am not seeing any fading on the red, I feel this "yellow-less" state of this card is due to factory print issues versus post factory fading.

The copy on the right's red is fairly close to the red on the left's copy, so if there was fading involved, the red on the left copy should appear much more faded than the right copy.

Anyone else seen another "yellow-less" 58 Topps card?
58 Topps cards are by far the easiest card to fade. Go up 2 posts and look at that Spahn.

That card looks faded from the picture. If you want to know for sure send it to me with return postage and I will tell you for sure.
Reply With Quote
  #743  
Old 03-04-2017, 07:42 PM
savedfrommyspokes's Avatar
savedfrommyspokes savedfrommyspokes is offline
member
Larry More.y
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,010
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bnorth View Post
58 Topps cards are by far the easiest card to fade. Go up 2 posts and look at that Spahn.

That card looks faded from the picture. If you want to know for sure send it to me with return postage and I will tell you for sure.
IMO, the red should have faded before the yellow, but for whatever reason with the Richardson card this does not appear to be the case.

I will put this 58 card with the same color scheme in a (south facing) window tomorrow and see what happens with it.....here is the before pic. I am curious to see if the yellow and/or red fades first . Any ideas on how long it might take to show signs of fading?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg before test.jpg (77.8 KB, 367 views)
Reply With Quote
  #744  
Old 03-04-2017, 07:55 PM
bnorth's Avatar
bnorth bnorth is online now
Ben North
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 10,226
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes View Post
IMO, the red should have faded before the yellow, but for whatever reason with the Richardson card this does not appear to be the case.

I will put this 58 card with the same color scheme in a (south facing) window tomorrow and see what happens with it.....here is the before pic. I am curious to see if the yellow and/or red fades first . Any ideas on how long it might take to show signs of fading?
It really depends on the brand and year of card on what fades first. On 58's the yellow is by far the easiest color to remove of any brand/year I have ever experimented with.

PM or email me and I can give you all the info you want.

EDIT: If you find the blue front 1958 Aaron threads there is one that I show pictures of the background turning from green to blue. I added them to this post.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg aaron1.jpg (78.0 KB, 362 views)
File Type: jpg aaron2.jpg (77.8 KB, 364 views)
File Type: jpg aaron3.jpg (77.8 KB, 364 views)
File Type: jpg aaron4.jpg (70.0 KB, 362 views)
File Type: jpg aaron5.jpg (68.9 KB, 362 views)

Last edited by bnorth; 03-04-2017 at 08:13 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #745  
Old 03-19-2017, 03:14 PM
savedfrommyspokes's Avatar
savedfrommyspokes savedfrommyspokes is offline
member
Larry More.y
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,010
Default

Here is one I have not noticed before....the bottom border on this 71 Bench card has a recurring but limited print defect....always tougher to spot on HOFer's cards.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 199.jpg (73.2 KB, 341 views)
File Type: jpg 71 250.jpg (71.4 KB, 340 views)
Reply With Quote
  #746  
Old 03-19-2017, 07:02 PM
ALR-bishop ALR-bishop is offline
Al Richter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 9,150
Default

Have been on a fairly long cruise...128 days...since 1-5. Most passengers are retired like we are and even older age wise ( one guy is 102). On several occasions at dinner people will ask if I play golf or have a hobby. When I say I colllect baseball cards they say "oh"....and that the end of that conversation. ( although one guy did say he used to have a Mantle card but did not remember which one)
Reply With Quote
  #747  
Old 03-19-2017, 07:20 PM
brett 75 brett 75 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 272
Default 1960 Banks

Not sure if th this one applies to this section or not but an interesting card non the less . At bottom of card it says Section I . Sorry the picture is not that great ,
Brett
Attached Images
File Type: jpg image.jpg (19.1 KB, 329 views)
Reply With Quote
  #748  
Old 03-20-2017, 06:43 AM
savedfrommyspokes's Avatar
savedfrommyspokes savedfrommyspokes is offline
member
Larry More.y
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,010
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ALR-bishop View Post
Have been on a fairly long cruise...128 days...since 1-5. Most passengers are retired like we are and even older age wise ( one guy is 102). On several occasions at dinner people will ask if I play golf or have a hobby. When I say I colllect baseball cards they say "oh"....and that the end of that conversation. ( although one guy did say he used to have a Mantle card but did not remember which one)
Enjoy your cruise, let these other passengers know how much fun they are missing.
Reply With Quote
  #749  
Old 03-20-2017, 05:13 PM
irv's Avatar
irv irv is offline
D@le Irv*n
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Ontario, Canada.
Posts: 6,779
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ALR-bishop View Post
Have been on a fairly long cruise...128 days...since 1-5. Most passengers are retired like we are and even older age wise ( one guy is 102). On several occasions at dinner people will ask if I play golf or have a hobby. When I say I colllect baseball cards they say "oh"....and that the end of that conversation. ( although one guy did say he used to have a Mantle card but did not remember which one)
Sounds like one heck of a cruise, Al.

Enjoy!
Reply With Quote
  #750  
Old 04-02-2017, 03:48 PM
Sliphorn Sliphorn is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 170
Default 1962 #1 Unitas

Notice on this pair of cards that, more than a different color uniform jersey, the "9" in "19" is farther into the margin on the right most version. Also, the person at the bottom is more to the right in this version and the vegetation is different above him.

Also, the closeup of his hands on the ball image clearly shows his knuckles closer to the side margin in the lower one.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1962 #1 Unitas CU.jpg (82.6 KB, 283 views)
File Type: jpg 1962 #1 Unitas Ball CU.jpg (80.9 KB, 243 views)

Last edited by Sliphorn; 04-04-2017 at 05:12 PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
1966 Topps High # Print Variations 4reals Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980) 9 04-27-2014 06:05 PM
Are these variations or print defects? savedfrommyspokes Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980) 16 02-09-2013 11:52 AM
Well known print defects. Do variations exist without? novakjr Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980) 9 01-28-2011 04:32 PM
Finally confirmed - d311 print variations exist! ("bluegrass" variations) shammus Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 8 09-03-2010 07:58 PM
Wanted: T206 Print Variations and Errors Archive Tobacco (T) cards, except T206 B/S/T 1 01-04-2007 07:23 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:05 PM.


ebay GSB