The ultimate trade up

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

It's a lot easier to do what you are saying.. buy and sell and then buy what I want. That's what everyone does. I am trying to only trade. Dealing with only the cards I'm dealt. That is more entertaining and a. Ore difficult task imo

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE

It's a lot easier to do what you are saying.. buy and sell and then buy what I want. That's what everyone does. I am trying to only trade. Dealing with only the cards I'm dealt. That is more entertaining and a. Ore difficult task imo

Its more difficult to upgrade a collection by making fair deals at the time and trying to figure out the future market on the card versus getting charity.

If someone wants to downgrade a card for your card then they will want you to come up with cash to make up the difference unless its just charity.

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Its more difficult to upgrade a collection by making fair deals at the time and trying to figure out the future market on the card versus getting charity.

If someone wants to downgrade a card for your card then they will want you to come up with cash to make up the difference unless its just charity.

It's not charity. There is no such thing as a "fair trade" sure in a vacuum things can be fair but with the every changing market what's fair today may not be to
Oreos. That being said, I'm not looking for ANY charity. If someone is willing to make a deal they are doing it because they believe it meets their needs too. Obviously you would not be a good partner for what I am trying to achieve. I know if I had a card with 10 and I didn't want it, and someone had a card worth 8... of my card wasn't as liquid, I'd have no problem making a swap knowing I got rid of a tough sell and got what I want. Not trying to convince you. There's no one sayi we have to trade.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Its more difficult to upgrade a collection by making fair deals at the time and trying to figure out the future market on the card versus getting charity.

If someone wants to downgrade a card for your card then they will want you to come up with cash to make up the difference unless its just charity.

I think it may be inartfully expressed ITT, but as a dealer I trade for profit all the time. It certainly should be doable. Maybe he shouldn't tell people he wants them to trade down, it comes across as vaguely insulting. Instead just offer the very nice Wajo up for trade and work hard at getting an offer that works for the goal without basically telling people you are out to get the better of them. Obviously when trading with a dealer people expect to lose some value, but I don't rub their noses in it.

[Yoda]

Leon, I know I am a grumpy old man, but this thread is worst case of group mass mental masturbation I have ever seen and does not belong on Net 54. Your call.

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Leon, I know I am a grumpy old man, but this thread is worst case of group mass mental masturbation I have ever seen and does not belong on Net 54. Your call.

That's just mean lol

[bnorth]

If you complete the trade with Tony I have this offer. I would trade the card pictured for the 4 common T205 cards I PMed you about earlier and the Pete Rose/Ron Santo single signed baseballs from the trade with Tony.

This is the 5th card Beckett ever graded and a great piece of Beckett history. It is from the companies internal test run of 10 cards before any cards were graded for the public. This is super cool/special because it is a card of Jim Beckett III the founder of Beckett. From my understanding 3 of the 10 original cards graded are the Jim Beckett III Topps Stadium of Stars cards.

As far as value, I value it the same as 4 common T205's and 2 single signed baseballs.

[maddux311]

Here is the thread from the CU board that has been mentioned:

https://forums.collectors.com/discus...-1933-goude/p1

He took an entirely different approach, rather than just trading up.

^Also, I am glad to see that BGS graded one of the subgrades accurately(Corners-4).

[KMayUSA6060]

Originally Posted by bnorth

If you complete the trade with Tony I have this offer. I would trade the card pictured for the 4 common T205 cards I PMed you about earlier and the Pete Rose/Ron Santo single signed baseballs from the trade with Tony.

This is the 5th card Beckett ever graded and a great piece of Beckett history. It is from the companies internal test run of 10 cards before any cards were graded for the public. This is super cool/special because it is a card of Jim Beckett III the founder of Beckett. From my understanding 3 of the 10 original cards graded are the Jim Beckett III Topps Stadium of Stars cards.

As far as value, I value it the same as 4 common T205's and 2 single signed baseballs.

This is an error card, to boot.

Van West, OH, doesn't exist. Van Wert, OH, does. How does Beckett, screw up Beckett's card?

[Leon]

I disagree. It isn't hurting anyone, I don't think? Why not have some fun? If anyone doesn't like the thread they don't have to click it.

Originally Posted by Yoda

Leon, I know I am a grumpy old man, but this thread is worst case of group mass mental masturbation I have ever seen and does not belong on Net 54. Your call.

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

I have 4 possible trades in the works! Let's see what happens!!

[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by Leon

I disagree. It isn't hurting anyone, I don't think? Why not have some fun? If anyone doesn't like the thread they don't have to click it.

Agree.
These types of threads help educate me about negotiating/trading, and the psychology behind it.
It also helps me learn which members to steer clear of in the future.

[7nohitter]

I think this is a fun, harmless (so far) thread. I like the potential here and I don't understand why anyone needs to post anything negative.

Good luck with your journey!

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Leon, I know I am a grumpy old man, but this thread is worst case of group mass mental masturbation I have ever seen and does not belong on Net 54. Your call.

After finally getting well-needed rest, I reread this threat and realized that I sounded like the 'Grinch that Stole Xmas.' I think the idea of a Trade Up adventure is terrific, particular for a vison quest card like a T'52 Mantle. But I guess I was thinking that the main board should be reserved for more weighty hobby issues. God knows in a new post-Mastro era we have enough.
Leon, would it be possible to establish a trade link for T/U next to B/S/T?
John

[ullmandds]

i wish you the best in your endeavor...I kinda remember some newbie...eager beaver trying to do the same for a wagner...that obviously did not happen!!!!

best of luck to you though!

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

i wish you the best in your endeavor...I kinda remember some newbie...eager beaver trying to do the same for a wagner...that obviously did not happen!!!!

best of luck to you though!

Thanks a lot!

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Ok here is what I have to work with....


T206 Bender, no trees, psa 4 HOF
T206 McGraw, at hip, psa 3 HOF SOLD
T206 McGraw, port w/cap psa 2 HOF SOLD
T206 McGraw, finger air, psa2 HOF
T206 Kelly, psa3 HOF
T206 Chase, pink, psa3 SOLD
T206 Pelty, vert, psa 4.5
T206 McEvlveen, bvg 4
kicker - a very nice raw NM range 62 topps Mays AS card


I will take scans as soon as they come in tomorrow.

Who wants to make a trade for the remaining cards? They are for sale too just come with a strong offer. Once these are gone I will turn them into 1 card and we will start over again! Let's go!

[frankbmd]

1) Start with a 69 Mantle
Trade for a 68 Mantle
Then trade for a 67 Mantle
.....................................'
then trade for a 53 Mantle
and finally trade for a 52 Mantle.

2) Start a thread requesting 17 volunteers to participate in Step 1)

3) Complete 17 trades.

Problem solved.

I will accept your T205 WaJo in exchange for this advice.

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

1) Start with a 69 Mantle
Trade for a 68 Mantle
Then trade for a 67 Mantle
.....................................'
then trade for a 53 Mantle
and finally trade for a 52 Mantle.

2) Start a thread requesting 17 volunteers to participate in Step 1)

3) Complete 17 trades.

Problem solved.

I will accept your T205 WaJo in exchange for this advice.

Damn I wanted this to be fun but a few people who have already posted on here rain on most of my threads. It's okay. Offer up. Not looking for charity. If you want the card and wanna unload something it'll be easy.

Here's an example.

Yesterday at the show . I had a binder of 80 low grade star cards with a trade in value of maybe 75. Traded 5 cards for a 54 ex oc billly Martin.

Then traded the Martin and rest of the binder for a 66 mantle VG raw (he had triples)

Then traded that mantle for a 55 banks raw ex and 66 Koufax raw ex (he needed a mantle)

Then finally traded that for a psa 5 maris RC. (He had 2)

Trades don't have to be fair if they make sense. That's my point.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE

Trades don't have to be fair if they make sense.

Best quote ever. Belongs in a fortune cookie!

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE

Damn I wanted this to be fun but a few people who have already posted on here rain on most of my threads. It's okay. Offer up. Not looking for charity. If you want the card and wanna unload something it'll be easy.

Here's an example.

Yesterday at the show . I had a binder of 80 low grade star cards with a trade in value of maybe 75. Traded 5 cards for a 54 ex oc billly Martin.

Then traded the Martin and rest of the binder for a 66 mantle VG raw (he had triples)

Then traded that mantle for a 55 banks raw ex and 66 Koufax raw ex (he needed a mantle)

Then finally traded that for a psa 5 maris RC. (He had 2)

Trades don't have to be fair if they make sense. That's my point.

Two things that differ from your example and what you did in your original post:
1) I am sure you didn't go to each person telling them you are willing to trade for anything as long as it was "Just something I can trade that is worth more than what I am offering here."

2) You worked in quantities as many people suggested over attempting a 1:1 trade.

There are several times I have traded and was the benefactor of the better end, but I didn't go into it telling the other person that was my objective and they should keep that in mind before attempting the trade. Also I am sure I have been on the other side where I left something on the table, but again that other person didn't leave me feeling like I got the worse end of the deal.

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

Two things that differ from your example and what you did in your original post:
1) I am sure you didn't go to each person telling them you are willing to trade for anything as long as it was "Just something I can trade that is worth more than what I am offering here."

2) You worked in quantities as many people suggested over attempting a 1:1 trade.

There are several times I have traded and was the benefactor of the better end, but I didn't go into it telling the other person that was my objective and they should keep that in mind before attempting the trade. Also I am sure I have been on the other side where I left something on the table, but again that other person didn't leave me feeling like I got the worse end of the deal.

lol I actually did. I was forth coming. I said hey I have this mantle I will take whatever you want to get rid of that you don't think you can move easily as long as it's worth more than this mantle. Dealers actually said they liked the fact I wasn't wasting their time and we worked together to find a card they didn't mind getting rid of. Trade don't have to be fair if they make sense.

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by autograf

I hate to be "that guy" but isn't it WaJo? And that is a really pretty WaJo or WoJo depending on the answer to this. Good luck on the 52 Mantle quest. I need one for my set.............

THANKS A LOT!

Originally Posted by T206Collector

Best quote ever. Belongs in a fortune cookie!

Right? I have to explain this to my fantasy baseball league mates constantly.

It's like ok you need steals and I need homers. I'll trade you my (let's say this was 2010) Jose Reyes for your pujols. They are always like ok but you need to throw in some power. lol a trade will never be 100% equal.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

1) Start with a 69 Mantle
Trade for a 68 Mantle
Then trade for a 67 Mantle
.....................................'
then trade for a 53 Mantle
and finally trade for a 52 Mantle.

2) Start a thread requesting 17 volunteers to participate in Step 1)

3) Complete 17 trades.

Problem solved.

I will accept your T205 WaJo in exchange for this advice.

I really like that idea Frank. During the quest you would have owned a complete Topps Mantle run. Stephen could use the T205 WoJo, The 2000 WS bullpen home plate, and the 1952 Topps Mays as his starting point.

[autograf]

I hate to be "that guy" but isn't it WaJo? And that is a really pretty WaJo or WoJo depending on the answer to this. Good luck on the 52 Mantle quest. I need one for my set.............