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Old 07-15-2018, 07:19 AM
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The Wagner. There are 3 Mantles, so if one were to come up for sale, you have 2 deep pockets that wouldn't be bidding. There is only 1 PSA 8 Wagner.
There are 0 PSA 8 Wagner's, realistically speaking, and that could be (maybe not) a problem.
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There are 0 PSA 8 Wagner's, realistically speaking, and that could be (maybe not) a problem.
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Why did one of the big submitters get it into a PSA 10 slab?
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What are you talking about? Did you mean to say what "if"? Or are you speaking of a Mantle or what?

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What are you talking about? Did you mean to say what "if"? Or are you speaking of a Mantle or what?
It was a joke about the Wagner because of you saying there is no PSA 8.
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I'm not so sure the Wagner being trimmed makes much of a difference. Plus the card has a history, Gretzky used to own it. If another psa 8 is discovered and they were both sold I would not be surprised if the new one went for less, and they both sold for less than a psa 10 52 mantle.
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IMHO, the most valuable card, should it come out for sale, would be the best example of the 1914 Baltimore News Ruth (VG+, I believe), quite possibly contested closely by a PSA 10 '52 Topps Mantle. 8 figures would not surprise me for either. Each has become analogous to the early '60's Ferrari road/race models in our collectible field.

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But wait ... I thought I had heard that all three PSA 10 Mantles had been hand cut from those uncut sheets.

Doesn't that make them "trimmed" too?

I mean the grade on them is just as bogus because they were not factory cut and issued cards.

Why the question marks and discrimination on the Wagner and not the Mantles? All 4 have been doctored in one way or the other.

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There are 0 PSA 8 Wagner's, realistically speaking, and that could be (maybe not) a problem.
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Things being what they are I believe the PSA 10 Mantle - MUCH more interest in it lately (higher demand) and I speculate more deep pockets willing to do battle for it.

Pretty incredible the level of detail that PSA claims to invest in determining if a card is trimmed or otherwise altered and yet a card that is supposed to be in some respects the face of the hobby sits in a holder with a numeric grade at the top of the population and not even so much as a qualifier - If I am not mistaken, by their own guidelines the card should have an "A" grade.
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