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Old 12-01-2018, 02:09 PM
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Are we ever going to learn the name of this asshole forger?
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Old 12-01-2018, 02:13 PM
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Are we ever going to learn the name of this asshole forger?
Ha, I know! I keep checking the thread, the suspense is killing me!
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Old 12-01-2018, 02:47 PM
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Old 12-01-2018, 02:59 PM
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I wouldn't expect AHs to give up names, but given the seriousness of the situation I don't think it would be unreasonable to expect them to make a statement about their assessment of and intended response to the problem. That doesn't seem too much to ask, does it? Perhaps it's too soon, but hopefully that will be forthcoming. They certainly are not shy in general about communicating.
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I wouldn't expect AHs to give up names, but given the seriousness of the situation I don't think it would be unreasonable to expect them to make a statement about their assessment of and intended response to the problem. That doesn't seem too much to ask, does it? Perhaps it's too soon, but hopefully that will be forthcoming. They certainly are not shy in general about communicating.
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We're still waiting for one from PSA about the Gretzky Wagner.

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Old 12-01-2018, 04:35 PM
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And behind door number three... (drum roll)
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Are we ever going to learn the name of this asshole forger?
Not likely on this site Eric. Instead of being given the chance to check our collections to see if we have any dealings with this douche, we're told to be patient.
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simmer down. there are things that are of more importance than the typical net 54 mob extracting its pound of flesh. you have gone a couple years not knowing this forger or forgers existed. is it really going to kill you to wait a few more days or even a week?
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simmer down. there are things that are of more importance than the typical net 54 mob extracting its pound of flesh. you have gone a couple years not knowing this forger or forgers existed. is it really going to kill you to wait a few more days or even a week?
In another week this will have been forgotten and we will be onto a new scammer we will care about for a few days.
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simmer down. there are things that are of more importance than the typical net 54 mob extracting its pound of flesh. you have gone a couple years not knowing this forger or forgers existed. is it really going to kill you to wait a few more days or even a week?
Are you kidding? There must be blood. And it must be public.
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Old 12-01-2018, 07:52 PM
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Manny- You are a very funny guy....and had great insight to stir up this hornets nest!
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Old 12-01-2018, 08:12 PM
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I think that view is shortsided. The culprits already know they're found out. If we get the eBay IDs and names of the people, we can crowdsource the identification of more fraud examples. Why slow play the peeling of the onion at this point?
Are they still a registered eBay user?
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Old 12-01-2018, 08:29 PM
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The question, or a question, for me is: is it really as easy to do a credible copy of a signature as it looks?
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Are you kidding? There must be blood. And it must be public.
This can’t be... Net54 memes? I like it.
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Old 12-01-2018, 08:33 PM
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Guess the hobby is getting quicker at this technology thing than I thought.


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This is fantastic!
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Old 12-02-2018, 08:05 PM
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Nice job on the video! Very creative and hits a bit too close to home.
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Old 12-01-2018, 07:47 PM
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In response to Frank & others, Leon made it clear on an earlier post, I will gladly explain why public posting is not prudent at this time:

#1- This criminal activity is being handled by legal authorities and they will be better in finding the actual leaders and forgers if we do not allow the perpetrators to crawl back under their rocks, which may have occurred anyway since none of us initially realized the extent of this criminal activity.
#2-I do not know the name of the specific buyer of my Baker card, I do know the location, but there is enough info already out there to know the autograph hobby has severe vulnerabilities and your "dealings" were probably not with this guy anyway. The behind the scenes group that used various people to swindle grading services and authenticators are sophisticated and intentional, if you bought authenticated signed items, you should really care to wait until the investigations are done and its best to leave specifics off public forums in order to actually GET THIS RESOLVED which everyone in the hobby will benefit from.
#3-EVERYONE THAT CARES ABOUT THIS HOBBY, as a collector, dealer, authenticator or grading service knows that this forgery association has infiltrated certain high end items, not just common autographs and luckily manny(set builder) figured the tip of the iceberg out initially and there are now many people that care and are knowledgeable involved...THIS SITUATION is a toxic poison that must be RID of so its in everyone's best interest to stick together and educate yourselves. Most of those fake T206's are not even that good, but good enough to pass authentication so everyone needs to re learn the wheel and pray the good guys get these poisonous vermon. Also WATCH the video that Manny has posted on the net54 boards just recently, if you can see how amazing this one artist is with a pen, then imagine worldwide how many artists have the talent to reproduce a signature.
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Old 12-02-2018, 10:11 AM
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Not likely on this site Eric. Instead of being given the chance to check our collections to see if we have any dealings with this douche, we're told to be patient.
Actually, it is likely just not yet. There are things happening behind the scenes and it has been asked to not make the info public yet. Most of the people who have been working on this know the IDs so they aren't completely being kept secret. The info is just not being made public due to ongoing investigations.
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