![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
|
|
#1
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
I think Carlos Delgado and Fred McGriff are overlooked because they came up in the Steroid Era.
|
#2
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
I would like to see Tommy John get in not only for the nearly 300 wins, but also for the surgery that bears his name. I also like seeing Vada Pinson getting some love in this thread. When I first started taking baseball seriously as a player (maybe 6th grade?), my dad borrowed an instructional video from the coach at the high school where he taught. It had Vada Pinson going through various hitting drills. He's been an under-the-radar favorite of mine ever since.
|
#3
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
I agree Tommy John should be in the conversation for the nearly 300 wins, but for the surgery????? Did he do the surgery on himself?
And Steve Garvey? Really? Retrosheet.org has him -6.1 in BFW (Batter/Fielder Wins) - admittedly it's a harsher measure than WAR, but even Baines is +13.7 by that same measure. Trout is +54.3 in half a career. Quote:
Last edited by timn1; 07-05-2021 at 10:08 PM. |
#4
|
||||
|
||||
![]() Quote:
__________________
Signed 1953 Topps set: 264/274 (96.35 %) |
#5
|
||||
|
||||
![]() Quote:
How is surgically altering a pitching arm praised, while chemically altering muscle tissue is banned? What, really, is the difference when it comes to using modern medicine to gain a competitive advantage? |
#6
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
Has anyone ever questioned Koufax' regime of cortisone (steroid) injections?
__________________
My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/ He is available to do custom drawings in graphite, charcoal and other media. He also sells some of his works as note cards/greeting cards on Etsy under JamesSpaethArt. |
#7
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
It's a slippery slope, isn't it?
|
#8
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
I forget if it was here or over on the PSA boards but someone made a post basically detailing that Koufax was a PED user by pretty much every definition of the word.
|
#9
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
Id vote for Johnny Kling. He was constantly voted best catcher by his peers whom played with him and he lead the Cubs to 3 straight pennants, took a year off (Cubs finish 2nd) comes back and brings the cubs to the series again in '10
1906 cubs.jpg |
#10
|
||||
|
||||
![]() Quote:
I have no sympathy for the players regarding that strike but it's too bad most of them (Molitor, Morris, etc.) didn't pay a price like McGriff. |
#11
|
||||
|
||||
![]() Quote:
. |
#12
|
|||
|
|||
![]() Quote:
McGriff I think belongs. If we keep out the steroid guys but only elect guys with steroid-level stats like Frank Thomas and Ken Griffey very few players from this era will be making the hall. |
![]() |
|
|
![]() |
||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Baseball Hall of Fame "Shoebox Treasures" Exhibit | sixpointone | Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980) | 1 | 04-05-2019 03:21 PM |
1977 Exhibits "Baseball's Great Hall of Fame" | Bram99 | Live Auctions - Only 2-3 open, per member, at once. | 1 | 01-27-2019 09:39 PM |
1970 article on "Card Collector's Hall of Fame" | trdcrdkid | Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions | 12 | 03-04-2016 02:12 PM |
SOLD!!!! "HALL of FAME HEROES" COMPLETE 44 CARD SET! Ends Sun 12-8! | GoldenAge50s | Live Auctions - Only 2-3 open, per member, at once. | 5 | 12-08-2013 08:24 PM |
2013 Hall of Fame "Special" Induction 7/28...any Net54 members attending? | orator1 | Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions | 21 | 07-28-2013 05:38 PM |