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Sorry to mess up on the math, but Cobb has been quoted as saying that he owed much of his batting prowess to imitating the batting swing of Joe Jackson.
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It was Babe Ruth who said he imitated Joe Jackson, not Cobb.
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IMO, both of them should be inducted into the HOF. It's only a matter of time before you see MLB sponsorships w/ the casinos and gambling entities like DraftKings like the other major sports, and then you'll realize how hypocritical baseball is on this matter. There should definitely be a punishment, similar to PEDS, such as first strike is 80 game suspension without pay, etc. However, after that, they should leave it to the voters or Veterans Committee on whether to vote the player in.
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The issue isn't the gambling, it is the fans thinking that the players aren't always trying to win games and baseball turning into the WWE. |
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Well I read it was Cobb, but regardless of which one it was, the point has been well established that Joe Jackson had a great swing, and I doubt if there is anyone yet to be elected to the HOF that was or is a better player than Shoeless Joe.
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Barry Bonds, to name just one.
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Neither belong in. Both were aware of what they were doing and just went with it. Jackson I feel somewhat sorry for. Rose was always a wise guy and thought he could do anything he wanted. You follow the rules or else.
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For Jackson it depends on which of the many versions of the different stories you believe. Some accounts have said...
He refused the $5000 twice and teammate Lefty Williams threw it on the hotel room floor. He then tried to tell Comiskey about the fix but he refused to meet with him. It was said that in his grand jury appearance he said he would muff balls and he would be slow and make short throws back to the infield but there are no stenographic records of him saying that. Years later the other seven players who were supposedly involved said he was never at any of the meetings. He was acquitted by a grand jury So if you believe that a person is innocent until proven guilty then Jackson does belong in the Hall of Fame. |
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