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Posted By: petecld
I hate to think I'm lossing my objectivity because I have NO sympathy for this fool but look at: |
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Posted By: john
the original seller gave this guy the idea i guess,saying to cut this card down and it would be mint.... plus the seller lied and said he paid 95 cents more than he really did! |
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Posted By: warshawlaw
I love how he interposed the photo of the cut down card over the SGC holder (at least it looked like that to me). |
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Posted By: MW
Warshawlaw -- |
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Posted By: runscott
...he simply cracked the case and re-inserted the card, then re-scanned - look carefully at the edges and you can see a few stress marks. Looks like it's fooled at least two people already! Back to my original point of how nicely SGC holders crack. |
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Posted By: MW
Scott -- |
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Posted By: runscott
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Posted By: MW
The question is not whether I looked at an image on eBay. The question is whether you could fool me in person with a resealed SGC holder. |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
for--God knows how much over $1000. Following the ridiculous suggestion of seller, he took it out of the sgc holder and tried to trim it with an exacto knife. He made a mess. Posted in his auction are 1) the messed-up card and 2) the SGC holder he removed it from. |
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Posted By: MW
Scott and I were discussing the third image. |
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Posted By: runscott
Michael - I hesitated to mention this, because it might just mean that I have poor eye-sight, but I DID get an SGC-graded card about three months ago that I couldn't crack out without shattering the heck out of the case. After finally getting the card out, I was convinced that someone had busted the case and then glued it together - bonding the plastic together much better than SGC's original entombment process. If that's true, then I must not have looked at the case very closely to begin with, or maybe it just wasn't obvious. I figured it was probably an early SGC job from a "time" when they had tighter-fitting cases, but who knows? |
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Posted By: MW
there's a rumor that SGC seals YOUR holders just a bit tighter than everyone else's. |
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Posted By: runscott
Looked more like a very good "crack and re-seal" job to me, which wouldn't be near as difficult with SGC holders as it is for PSA. |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
what third image? Do you mean the original card, in the original auction, before messing-up, in the sgc holder, sgc 80? Otherwise, i don't see any third image. There is a new configuration in the present auction: the messed=up jackson is huge, and right next to it, there is an empty sgc holder, also huge. |
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Posted By: runscott
We were talking about the bottom image that shows the "butchered" version of Jackson placed back in the cracked-open holder that it was in originally. |
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Posted By: MW
Scott -- |
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Posted By: warshawlaw
Thanks for posting the scan. That was a damn nice card. You've got to be pretty dumb to crack out a card like that and try to trim it. |
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Posted By: Brueso
the trimming was a crazy (and greedy) thing to do, but on top of it- he did such a BAD JOB- looks like he used a butter knife! You'd think he'd either get really sharp surgeon's scissors or at least use a paper cutter. |
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Posted By: Brueso
...besides which, the card BEFORE cutting looked pretty decent. I've seen some caramel cards that I might've been tempted to cut if I owned them- not to boost value, but just because you have one of those odd corners jutting out that is like a collick- but ultimately you think, this card has been this way with this collick for nearly 100 years- I think they should stay together. |
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Posted By: vorthian
<< Thanks for posting the scan. That was a damn nice card. You've got to be pretty dumb to crack out a card like that and try to trim it. >> |
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Posted By: warshawlaw
NOTHING surprises me any more about the stupidity and greed of people. |
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Posted By: TBob
I am too and I agree completely. |
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Posted By: runscott
I just located another one of these "elaphant sealed" SGC's. It's a little smaller than the new ones, there is almost no groove along the side, and the label is slightly different (banner with 'SG' on it). Probably the same type I tried to crack before that I thought had been cracked and re-glued. |
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Posted By: vorthian
<< It's a little smaller than the new ones, there is almost no groove along the side, and the label is slightly different >> |
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Posted By: Jeff
ditto, ditto, and ditto. |
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Posted By: jay behrens
or I am gonna assume you have been brain washed by that idiot Rush Dimbulb. |
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Posted By: BcD
or I am gonna slap and paste you to your computer screen! |
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Posted By: jay behrens
>or I am gonna slap and paste you to your computer >screen! |
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Posted By: BcDaniels
Lucas or " Vorthian" |
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Posted By: jay behrens
aw, come on. I wanna fight |
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Posted By: John
....but i wanted to say im glad that this card didnt sell,this guy has one of the worst feedbacks and he has lame excuses for all of his responses to his negatives,im sure when you get that many in that few transactions none were his fault.....hes poison!(check the feedbacks).....ok jay,now go back to your fighting,so far i have jay winning round one 10-9 |
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