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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Picked up this Tris Speaker bat today at an auction...I only went to the auction because they listed a Winchester bat on the sale bill. The Winchester was nice, but it was a "Boys Special" model and measured up pretty short. When the bidding came around to the bats they pulled out the Winchester model and I let it go cheap ($65) to a guy I know doesn't give up if he wants something...so they had three more bats and they put all in one lot and sold them for choice...I snagged the Speaker for $50 and let the other two bats go...they were H&B Oil Tempered model and an MR Campbell model. I also snagged a KiKi Cuyler glove for $40 so overall a great day...I may go back as I noticed a Spalding Field Hockey stick in nice shape...it was very old. |
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Posted By: MVSNYC
nice pieces! are you assuming the bat is a store model, or do you think there is a chance it is a professional model (game used)? |
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Posted By: Turner Engle
Nice snag, Dan. Great pieces. |
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Posted By: Mike H
Dan...you magnificant bastard! That bat is fantastic. It dates from 1921-31. Speaker played til 1928. He used bats ranging from 34-36" and 40 oz. I would contact Bushing to check H&B records. Perhaps Speaker ordered a shorter bat toward the end of his career. Could be a gamer. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
How on earth do you find a game used Speaker at an estate sale? That's amazing! |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Thanks guys...I doubt it's a gamer because it measures just short of Speaker's specs...who knows though? |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
I just re-measured the Speaker bat and it comes up almost exactly 34"....it is probably 1/10" shy of 34. I originally measured with a yardstick I found at the estate sale and it looked 33 1/2 to me, but it's definitely longer than that. |
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Posted By: brock
Is 34 stamped on the knob, it looks like a 3 to the left of that carved line. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Nope...no stampings on the knob at all. |
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Posted By: Clint
Dan, stunning find, way to go! It just shows there's more discoveries to be made. |
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Posted By: Greg
Hi Dan, |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
I emailed Dave. Thanks for the help guys. |
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Posted By: Mike H
There is one thing about the bat that bothers me. I have not seen a bat owned by a player that didn't have near perfect, bold, complete stamping. I am faaaaaar from being an authority, but I would assume that if one of the greatest players of the day ordered a bat, the guy stamping them would make sure it was darn near perfect for Mr. Speaker. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
I'm not sure what you're seeing Brock...nothing is stamped on the knob. |
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Posted By: Brock G.
I see a faint image of a 3 but it does not look stamped. You dont see that Dan? |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Are you talking about the dark "ring" on the knob? If so it's kind of strange that it shows up in a flash photo, but is not easy to see with the naked eye. |
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Posted By: David Atkatz
It's karma, Dan. |
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Posted By: Mike H
I'll bet it gets an 8 from MEARS. |
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Posted By: brock
I would say an A7 or A7.5 |
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Posted By: Brock G.
Can someone please explain to me how you can tell its a pro model bat rather than a store model? I know very little about game-used items and would like to take this opportunity to request a brief tutorial on the subject. What are the odds that Dan's bat comes back as game used? Is it like a no doubt about it kind of deal? or 50/50? I'd like to know in case I ever happen upon a bat like this. I can dream right? |
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Posted By: brock
Brock, |
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Posted By: Mark
Dan: |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
It appears I have a pro model bat here. Not sure what my next move is, but I think I'll be sending it in to MEARS. Thanks to those who have helped out here. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
I weighed the bat and it came out at 41 oz. |
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Posted By: Max Weder
Dan |
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Posted By: Brock
Well after looking at the center brand it looks like the bat is from 1928-1933. He retired in 1928. So im guessing its from his last year or a post career bat. But either way its worth more than the $65 you paid for it. In 1928 he ordered bats that weighed (38,37,38-39). |
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Posted By: Brock G.
Here is a Speaker gamer sold by REA- |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Brock, where did you get the info that the centerbrand dates it to 1928-33? My info has it as 1916-29. |
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Posted By: Brock
Ok i just checked again and i was wrong by acouple of years. I believe its from 1923-25. It can't be from 1919-21 because it dont have the dash dot dash. My fault i was looking at the wrong photo in Vince malta's book. |
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Posted By: Dan McCarthy
First, congrats Dan on finding that Speaker bat. If it's a gamer then it's an extraordinary find but it's a great piece either way. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Good questions Dan...I've been attending auctions for years as both of my parents were antique collectors when I was growing up, I just grew up with it...The only reason I went to the auction this weekend was because they advertised a Winchester baseball bat. That was the only baseball item I was expecting to see when I got there. I was pleasantly surprised to walk up into the garage and notice not one bat, but 4 bats and a splitfinger glove. The auctioneers are basically clueless when it comes to baseball items, but they sure know the name Winchester and that's the only reason they listed it. A lot of it is hit and miss as baseball memorabilia often doesn't even make it into the sale bill. The auctioneer from the sale this weekend knows me very well and usually will let me know when they have baseball stuff, but I never heard anything from him...I almost didn't go to this sale as I wasn't feeling well, but I figured I couldn't take a chance at letting the Winchester go for nothing. |
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