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Posted By: Robert {Bigb13}
What do you guys about the rare backs on the T206? How many of each do you think are out there? I am talking about backs like Leno, Uzit, Broadleaf, etc. Rob |
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Posted By: Marc S.
I am by far not the expert on this: |
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Posted By: Robert {Bigb13}
I have read that Uzit up until the 1960's was so rare that Burdick spelled it Usit. Rob |
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Posted By: JimB
I think Marc's numbers are probably in the ballpark. One note I would make is that Red Hindus seem pretty darn tough to me and though they are probably in the hundreds, I would guess the low hundreds, like 200-300. |
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Posted By: Hal Lewis
I can't believe that JimB didn't say this: |
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Posted By: Brian E.
Because like many people, he doesn't consider the Cobb back, a T206! |
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Posted By: JimB
Who would want Ty Cobb back anyway? |
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Posted By: Darren J. Duet
Could we get a consensus to eliminate Cobb/Cobb Back from the T206 set, and redesignate it T367? |
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Posted By: john/z28jd
I know alot of people who would agree to that designation Darren and if you can search thru old threads youll see some pretty interesting discussions about the Ty Cobb back and its place among t206s.If they took a survey count me in as a person who would consider it a "1 of 1 set" by itself. |
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Posted By: Cobby33
These are tough too, no? |
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Posted By: Mike Tucci (18colt)
An earlier post stated 75-100 known Drum backed T-206s. Two items: |
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Posted By: Ed McCollum
I've got one ... Bender, pitching, no trees. What condition is worse than beater? That's what it is. Purchased from Levi Bleam at 707 Sportscards at the National in St. Louis (1994?) |
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Posted By: Larry
In addition to what was mentioned...Cycle 460 is very tough |
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Posted By: Nathan
When you say 75 to 100 exist for Drum - do you mean per player or for the whole T206 set? |
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Posted By: John Spencer
I have one drum backed T206, a Griffith batting in a PSA 7. I wonder if there are any higher graded Hof'ers than this one. |
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Posted By: Hal Lewis
My only Drum is a Tris Speaker PSA 1. |
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Posted By: marc S.
<<When you say 75 to 100 exist for Drum - do you mean per player or for the whole T206 set?>> |
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Posted By: Ed McCollum
I've seen the rectangular box overprint, and the scroll overprint, but never one with a series of dashes. Would you be able to post a scan? Thanks. |
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Posted By: JimB
I have one Drum, a Magee with bat. |
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Posted By: Richard
How about Lenox Brown? Also about 100-150 total? |
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Posted By: joe maples
No rare backs but do have the one mentioned above with Factory 9 over printed with red, the Sweet Caporal 350-460 series factory 42. And 1 Cycle 460 subjects. |
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Posted By: Lee Behrens
I have one UZIT, Wiltse pitching, I have seen a second copy. No Drum, but hoping to get one. I think the Red Hindu are really tough ( I have a nice shalacked copy of Devore). |
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Posted By: Betty
My Drum is a Jake Atz PSA 4 |
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Posted By: Nathan
I thought there would be more cards as Luther "Dummy" Taylor is one I am looking for but with only a small number out there from the whole set of players, could it be that one does not exist for Taylor? He's on all the checklists of as having a DRUM back. |
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Posted By: Brian Weisner
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Posted By: JimB
In addition to Hal's PSA 1 Speaker, there is a PSA 4 Speaker with Drum back. I saw it about 5 years ago at SCP and still regret not buying it. They auctioned it off. |
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Posted By: pete ullman
I HAD a drum solly hofman that I sold on ebay 1-2 yrs ago for $1015 and I currently have an abbaticchio blue sleeves with a lennox back. |
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Posted By: JimB
I also have Uzit Willis. |
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Posted By: leon
No Drum yet.....just never have gotten one. |
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Posted By: Brian Weisner
I have the following Uzit's....... |
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Posted By: scott ingold
I have a red hindu Hummel. I see there is or was a red Cy Young on the bay about an hour ago. Bad shape though. |
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Posted By: Brian Weisner
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Posted By: Marty
I do not currently own a Drum back, but I know where one is and he does not read this board. |
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Posted By: Mike Tucci (18colt)
I have one Uzit (another beauty in my beater collection) and guess what -- it's Leach (fielding pose). Leon -- is your Leach the fielding pose or the portrait? |
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Posted By: Art M.
Here is the list of my T206 Detroit players: |
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Posted By: Drew
I have these rare backs: |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
In my T206 set are: |
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Posted By: joe maples
Art M. some nice backs on those Detroit players, must be a Detroit collector like me. |
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Posted By: Robert {Bigb13}
I just picked up a Wagner with Uzit back with a little damage. I also have a Cobb Red with a Lenox back a Ford with a Red Hindu back and a hard combo of Kleinow Boston Variation Piedmont 350-460 Factory 42 back. And a few other Piedmont 42's that off of the top of my head I can not remember now. Rob |
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Posted By: Ed McCollum
Drum....Bender, no trees |
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Posted By: Lee Behrens
Robert, Interesting variation of the Kleinow, Boston, I have a Cycle 460 of the same card and the Smith Chicago Boston as well as a Pied Fact 42 of the Smith. |
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Posted By: Brian E.
I have the following Rare/Scarce back Cobbs: |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Nathan |
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Posted By: Brian Weisner
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Posted By: Jeff Mohler
I have a Marquard Lenox PSA 2 and a Dineen Broadleaf SGC 20. Tim Newcomb sold me the Dineen, I believe. |
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Posted By: Jim Rivera
A few to add to the list |
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Posted By: William Heitman
Add these Drum backs (using The Monster's numbers): 4, 7, 11, 20, 31, 42, 59, 71, 74, 79, 82, 95, 100, 107, 121, 128, 135, 149, 158, 179, 180, 194, 207, 213, 234, 250, 252, 263, 276, 278, 300, 311, 321, 332, 346, 365, 367, 382, 387, 394, 401, 402, 406, 412, 413, 418, 426 |
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Posted By: Robert {Bigb13}
I have the Monster and I have a question, why is the Kleinow Boston Variation ahrder than the NY one? In the monster it looks like the NY one was released only in the 150 series if I am remembering correctly and the Boston in the 350-460 and assorted series. Rob |
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Posted By: William Heitman
Neither Kleinow was in the 150 Series |
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Posted By: Robert {Bigb13}
My mistake, the Boston was in the 350, 350-460 and some of the assorted. And the NY version was only in the 350 and some of the assorted. When you look at the assorted brands the NY was issued with 5 brands while the Boston was issued with 7. So how can the Boston be rarer than the NY? According to the monster should it not be the NY which should be rarer? Rob
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