Uncovered the mysteries of T206museum and OM black overprint backs

[DJR]

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[danmckee]

Thanks DJ, just 1 more deceitful move by Chan Scum. I am still waiting for the Sun Fish to chime in to say awwwww lets give him a 2nd chance.

[canjond]

Originally Posted by DJR

Patrick purchased a T206 era (almost certainly no card) MINT still sealed in rice paper Piedmont pack from me back in June of 2003. After the purchase, he emailed stating no card was inside and wanted a refund. Before I sold it him, I stated via email the price is based on no card inside. He made me write 7 day return in the Paypal money request notes. When it arrived, Patrick (stated his friend / cousin Fred) sent an email by accident in jest, claiming no card was inside, demanding a refund. It was all very strange and really upset me at the time. I told him NO and then he stated a friend / cousin 'Fred' accidentally sent the email when Patrick simply asked him to send an email confirm it arrived and was playing a trick on me. Needless to say, I kept the emails (with full headers). I was expecting a chargeback or who knows. My experience! This was the contact data:

ebay@patrick-chan.com
Patrick Chan
4000 Bayside Drive
Apt. #202
Palatine, IL 60074

I'm curious - was this a 10-count or a 12-count Piedmont pack? This is exactly why I still feel that 12 count packs with cards being pulled from them are creations. Rob did a great job in 2008 describing the possibilities as to how a card can be pulled from a 12 count. The thing that is clear, however, is that 12-counts weren't available until 1917.

[rdwyer]

Jon:

This is what Jim R. & I were discussing. Wasn't it T206museum.com that started the claim that they found a T206 in a 12 count box? If so, we now know it was a lie the whole time.

[DJR]

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[Leon]

I have been away since I made the other post a "sticky" this morning. Here is my take on the events and my view.

1. I think Pat is a true psychopath. I think with every single word he speaks he is only setting himself up for the next scam he pulls. 100% BS on every word he writes or speaks.
2. He should be in jail.
3. Overprints aren't as easy to fake as once thought. The ones that have been caught recently testify to this. Barry was incorrect in saying there was more than 1 E94 fake overprint. To my knowledge there was 1 and I own it now.....and probably always will.
4. Pat should be in jail and I don't believe one word he says. (redundancy on purpose)

[danmckee]

100% in LEON'S corner on this one folks!!!

We are dealing with a bottom feeder that Rob has patronized for God knows what reason

Chan is scum and should be arrested for what he did.

I am available in person to fly to Chicago for any indictment and I think we should STRONGLY persue the local authorities as the FBI obviously can't be bothered.

THIS IS BS

Dan MCKEE

[rdwyer]

Saw this:

http://forloveofthecards.blogspot.co...was-fraud.html

[danmckee]

Very well put!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PATRICK CHAN AKA SLIME BALL SCUM BAG

[sbfinley]

As someone who has only been collecting pre-war cards for a little over a year now, this really sucks. I can pick out the obvious fakes but when it comes to less common t and e cards I'm sometimes weary of raw and I stick to slabbed examples. Now I know there are people out there slabbing fakes just for shits and giggles. Yeah this guy belongs in jail and should be deported when he's released. Ridiculous.

[barrysloate]

Thought there were two E94 fake overprints. I stand corrected.

[buymycards]

This so called apology is total BS. Sure, he is sorry now that he has been exposed. Charges need to filed. He needs to be in jail.

My guess is that more and more shady deals will be exposed as time goes on.

Rick