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Ted, truly great information. Insightful.
Can this similarity of printing be applied to earlier 350 press runs? And Jim, you're right to thank those that forward information. As it trickles in the mozaic of the white border cards becomes more defined. Frank W. |
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amazing scholarly work, Ted, that has illuminated the darkest reaches of the Monster.
i'm sure that you are now at the top of its 10 Most Wanted List!!! and most of the rest of the list lives on this board! best, barry |
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Well done Ted good read some good insight.
Not sure if anyone will be selling you BL460's for $10 bucks though.. Besides Jim offers $12. |
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Jim, Frank, Barry, and John
I really appreciate all your complimentary words here. They have engendered a great feeling in me. Some folks try to dazzle
you with their PSA8 graded cards....I'd rather dazzle you with some high-level research into the mystery's of BB card issues. John W I am upping the ante on this REWARD to $20 for CONFIRMED info on the 28 cards that I claim are BL 460 "NO-PRINTS". I am quite confident that these 28 cards wont be found with BL 460 backs (simply because my research suggests that they were never printed). Hey guys, I may be proven wrong on this......and, I welcome that. However, I do not expect to go broke paying out Andrew Jackson greenbacks. Please note....I still think that there is a good probability that any (or all) of the following cards will eventually be found with BL 460 backs....and, my offer stands to pay anyone $20 for the verification of any of these....."Elusive Eight". Ames (hands over head) Bender (no trees) Chance (portrait-yellow) Chase (portrait-blue) Chase (dark cap) Cobb (bat off shoulder) Donlin (bat) Doyle (bat) Magee (bat) Best regards to all of you, TED Z Last edited by tedzan; 01-14-2021 at 07:04 PM. Reason: Corrected typo. |
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Re: Broad Leaf 460/Red Hindu/Uzit
Hello Ted,
Always enjoy reading your postings on the T206 back breakdowns. I am confused by your BL460/Hindu red and AB460/Uzit patterns. I show some cards in the 350/460 series that have been confirmed with multiples of these backs. For example: Burch, fielding confirmed with BL460, Hindu Red, Lenox, Uzit. Mullin, batting - my list shows I have seen this one with BL460, and have a Uzit. Cobb, red - confirmed with BL460, Lenox, Uzit, and a PSA graded Hindu red. Downey, batting - confirmed with BL460, Hindu Red, Lenox, Uzit. Since we have no recorded front/back information until Bill Heitman began in 1980 we are still searching to confirm many of these possiblities. Every year we find some "new" combinations and add to these lists. Art |
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Art M
Here is what my research indicates......
Cobb (red portrait)...... Indeed, I have listed this card with a BL 460 back......but, I have to disagree with you that it exists with either a Red HINDU back or, a UZIT back. The PSA graded Red HINDU (the only one ever seen), that was in last year's auction, is very suspect. And, none of the Six Super Prints (of which this Cobb is one) were printed with the UZIT back. Downey (batting)...... Do you have this card with a UZIT back ? I've never seen this card with a UZIT back. Mullin (batting)...... I have this card with AB 460 and UZIT backs. I've never seen this card with a BL460 back. Burch (fielding)...... The only one of these 4 backs I have of this card is an AB 460. I know that the Super-Set indicates that BL 460, Red HINDU, and UZIT have been seen. But, neither of these 3 backs have been confirmed by anyone. The approx. 4800 inputs on the Super-Set (S-S) are 99.5 % accurate. However, I have been suspect of some of this data. So, I have contacted about a dozen people who have inputted such data to the S-S; and, it turned out in 6 cases that their inputs were mistaken. I tell you this because I'm skeptical about the BL 460 and/or the Red HINDU backs regarding Burch. Can you positively verify if Burch exists with a BL 460 and/or a Red HINDU ? Perhaps, Burch is the one anomaly to my AB 460 / UZIT or BL 460 / Red HINDU pattern theory. At this point, I cannot tell from the data that exists. I'm hoping you can clarify this subject ? Best regards, TED Z Last edited by tedzan; 04-08-2010 at 11:29 AM. |
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JP
Regarding your......
" I understand that you know which 26 different BL460s exist, and which 8 are likely to exist, but do you have any population numbers (total graded and/or non-graded) on any of the known cards? " I do not do POP reports, so I can't provide you any population #'s. Anyhow PSA #'s, for the most part, would be unrepresent- ative. In 30 years of collecting T206's, I've seen at least one example of 20 of the 26 listed BL 460 cards. In a about 5 cases, I have seen 2 examples. Perhaps, I might just start a survey here to see what kind of population exists among the BL 460 cards. TED Z |
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