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![]() ![]() Haven't a few others had the same type of stamp on the back? Last edited by wonkaticket; 03-10-2011 at 02:56 PM. |
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Nice card, I wonder why it cant be slabbed by PSA?? They are failing bigtime nowadays IMO
I once owned a Jennings that was only slight better condition than that Cobb. The Jennings was dirty with creases and rounded corners. Not all Tangos are from that "Find" back in 1992 Im sure they were considered very rare before 1992, maybe even rarer than the related D303 Mothers cards. I wish I still had scans of the Jennings I once owned, it was bought in eBay back about 1999-2000 from a lady in New Orleans who also have a few D303 Mothers cards, T216, T213-2, T214 cards too. Last edited by fkw; 03-10-2011 at 03:00 PM. |
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Did this card come from the big Red Cross Tobacco find?
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Same type of stamp....same "5" exact and letter "N" In fact if you overlay them they match exact, even the spacing between the "No" and the three digit code is exact. So unless someone took an auth Tango back with stamp (of which only one I know of has been seen) and then re-backed the Cobb and then beat it up to make age? But this also goes back to the find where did they come from?
![]() I dont think there's anything wrong with that card above...besides a few 100 bike tires and spokes...over it's years. IMO ![]() ![]() Better scans.. Last edited by wonkaticket; 03-10-2011 at 03:50 PM. |
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PSA may have refused to slab the card because it may have been too fragile. I had some very fragile E121's where PSA's slabbing machine damaged while trying to slab. PSA called me immediately when it happened to the first one and explained something about their vacuum sealing process damaged the card. (The card was already in very poor shape to begin with.) Anyway, PSA offered reparations, but refused to slab the rest of the cards. I sent these cards to SGC, who slabbed them without any problems. Might've been the same issue here.
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I am probably skeptical for nothing. It's just the rarity combined with the shape it's in combined with the different color printing than I have seen on others made me skeptical. Probably no worries at all. I think it is healthy to be a bit skeptical in our hobby though. For those that aren't ever skeptical, bless you.
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Good point Gary, SGC also refused to slab this Kotton of mine because they were worried it wouldn't survive the process.
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The Cobb is legit, and I strongly believe it is pre find. It has the same back stamp as the Oakes that I own, that John posted.
The more I research this set, the more I'm sure there are a lot more cards in it. It is my belief (although I don't have ironclad proof) that this is the same as the D303 set, with a different back printing. The cards in the find were the ones that weren't distributed, but Oakes, among others, were. The Cobb that Dave owned has the same number stamp as the Oakes, and it makes me wonder if all the ones that were distributed were stamped numerically. Frank, do you remember if your Jennings had a number stamped on the back? |
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As it was explained to me, PSA was concerned with the fragility of the card, not the authenticity. I'm not sure of PSA's protocol, but SGC required that a waiver be signed prior to encapsulation due to the fragile nature of the card.
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Good to be skeptical. Sometimes you have to take a chance, though, and that would be a good one to do it on. Great card of a fabulous player! Make mine rare.
Larry Last edited by ls7plus; 03-10-2011 at 05:05 PM. |
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funny that psa would take a stand with this card, with all the examples wonka showed above.
i hope it sold for cheaper raw because psa rejected it lol Last edited by chaddurbin; 03-10-2011 at 05:21 PM. |
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Hi Anthony, I didnt even know about the back stamp or even the Oakes card until this post. Similar looking to the T212 stamps in some ways.
I dont recall the beat up Jennings I had over 10 years ago had the stamp but Im not 100% sure without a picture anymore..... Ive had 5 computers since then and a couple fried so I lost a lot of unique pics from the eBay early days and my collection I had saved. |
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What I was told is what folks said above.....PSA (Joe) thought the card could crumble in the authentication process and that is why they wouldn't do it. After seeing John's comparison of backs above it would be hard to think this is a faked card. Neat find.
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Joe said they would not slab it because he was afraid he would damage the card in the process.
SGC put it in a 10 holder. The card is fine. The source that I got the card had no idea what it was, it was lumped in with a bunch of cracker jacks and coupons. The card is legit |
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