Cards still being outed on Blowout -- PSA 9 Monte Irvin in the recent ML

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If I understood you, I would agree.

I think he (hey Adam) cut and pasted
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[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

If I ever do a registry set, I am going to call it "Schrodinger's Cards" because they are in a quantum superposition of altered or unaltered until someone actually checks them for alterations. The intermediate character of the card formed by superposition thus expresses itself through the probability of a particular result for an observation being intermediate between the corresponding probabilities for the original states, not through the result itself being intermediate between the corresponding results for the original states. Or something like that...

You took the words right out of my mouth!

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

If I ever do a registry set, I am going to call it "Schrodinger's Cards" because they are in a quantum superposition of altered or unaltered until someone actually checks them for alterations. The intermediate character of the card formed by superposition thus expresses itself through the probability of a particular result for an observation being intermediate between the corresponding probabilities for the original states, not through the result itself being intermediate between the corresponding results for the original states. Or something like that...

We have a name for this distribution in math-nerd-land. It's called the Tweedie distribution.

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[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Leon

I think he (hey Adam) cut and pasted
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All but the idea and first and last sentences...that's mine.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If I understood you, I would agree.

In a physics class where the prof had a sense of humor I asked about how uncertainty changed is for example I did something to force knowlede of the cats condition without actually observing it. When he asked for details I said a large forging press or drop hammer should do nicely (Note, I would NOT advocate this in anything but a thought experiment. )

That class got "interesting" very quickly...... It also got nearly incomprehensible just as quickly.

[BobbyVCP]

I think that BO is doing good job...one thing that bothers me in their pointing out cards. I was in the screen printing biz for many years. So paper printing is similar but much faster speed. Now lint and things get on the screen so they need to be wiped down. But before it gets caught there must be a lot of cards with the same error spots....not just one card. So unless they can confirm the buyer and seller are the same person to call it out.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by BobbyVCP

I think that BO is doing good job...one thing that bothers me in their pointing out cards. I was in the screen printing biz for many years. So paper printing is similar but much faster speed. Now lint and things get on the screen so they need to be wiped down. But before it gets caught there must be a lot of cards with the same error spots....not just one card. So unless they can confirm the buyer and seller are the same person to call it out.

Ya, I always get a good laugh when they circle common print flaws that are on every copy of the same card. But ignoring that, they are still almost always posting the same card.

My favorite though is when they post a card that has a little white spot on it in the before photo, but which is missing in the after photo. Then they claim that recoloring was performed, and then the choir sings. Silly lint removal bandits! Lock em up!

[ALBB]

...and this is still about the altered Monte Irvin card... ?? LOL

[steve B]

Originally Posted by BobbyVCP

I think that BO is doing good job...one thing that bothers me in their pointing out cards. I was in the screen printing biz for many years. So paper printing is similar but much faster speed. Now lint and things get on the screen so they need to be wiped down. But before it gets caught there must be a lot of cards with the same error spots....not just one card. So unless they can confirm the buyer and seller are the same person to call it out.

Some are more convincing then others.

To me the most convincing are the fiber inclusions in the cardstock. Those are as good as anything as an identifier.

Print flaws are a very mixed bag.
Some are very transient. One job we had we needed to go through looking for flaws.(the booklet was being given to people pictured in it, and theirs had to be perfect. The rest were for attendees, and flaws were fine unless they were major.) most were white spots, and most only appeared on one booklet. A couple were more common. But we were a high quality usually low production shop. On cards, I've seen similar flaws that are sort of common.
Other flaws are flaws on the plate itself. Those are very consistent, and some cane be white or colored dots. If those are there and then later not there I have questions.... Tempered by the fact that some scanners can be set to automatically remove random specks, or do that by default.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by steve B

In a physics class where the prof had a sense of humor I asked about how uncertainty changed is for example I did something to force knowlede of the cats condition without actually observing it. When he asked for details I said a large forging press or drop hammer should do nicely (Note, I would NOT advocate this in anything but a thought experiment. )

That class got "interesting" very quickly...... It also got nearly incomprehensible just as quickly.

Sounds like a suggestion an economist (the pseudo-science that has successfully predicted 9 of the last 4 recessions) might make:

A physicist, a chemist, and an economist were stranded on a desert island with no implements and a can of food. They tried to figure out how to open the can. The physicist and the chemist were stymied. The economist shrugged and said, "I know how to open it: first, assume we have a can opener."

[parkplace33]

Originally Posted by raulus

In spite of their autoresponse that they would make every attempt to get back to me within three business days, it's been (/checks calendar) ~5 business days with no response.

In related news, I actually had emailed them a few days before about another matter, and they haven't responded to that email either.

So either they're ignoring all of my emails, or they're just slow. Or both.

Any update from PSA on either? Curious what their response is (if anything at all).

[raulus]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

Any update from PSA on either? Curious what their response is (if anything at all).

The latter. Whole lot of nothing at all so far. Could be a long wait for them to respond to their email.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by raulus

The latter. Whole lot of nothing at all so far. Could be a long wait for them to respond to their email.

Long gone are the days of good customer service, in so many companies.