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My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/ He is available to do custom drawings in graphite, charcoal and other media. He also sells some of his works as note cards/greeting cards on Etsy under JamesSpaethArt. Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 07-06-2019 at 07:56 PM. |
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Too funny, if it were any other AH other than PWCC Jesse would be leading the charge pitchfork in hand.
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Edited - just read that this auction will be ended. Good. Last edited by Rhotchkiss; 07-06-2019 at 09:53 PM. |
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I'm glad the right thing was done.
Shame it took some backlash to get the owner to do the right thing. Astonishing to think him and Brent thought it was OK to pull a stunt like that. |
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As for the Cobb I don't really expect Dan to take it back after 2 years, unless he happens to be involved in or knows what happened to it. If he wants to reach out and discuss a possible resolution I'm open to that. I plan to contact PSA on Monday and hopefully drop the card off for review when I receive it back from PWCC. As I honestly don't know if erased pencil marks are enough for the A designation or why it it was in the A holder before I got it I am curious to see what they'll say.
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What in gods name do you mean when you state "if erased pencil marks are enough for the A designation". I hope you misspoke. Do you see the eraser marks on the card? I do as does everyone else. That's flagrant alternation but still misses the point. Using an eraser to erase a previous stain/pen/pencil mark will remove the color from the card and likely more than that...as seen in your card that was altered. There's no excuse here. The card you purchased from Dan was altered. Plain and simple.
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1) https://www.psacard.com/resources/gr...andards/#cards Scroll down and click on "No Grade Definitions" Do you really feel that your card passes those conditions? Honestly...N-2, N-3, N-5, N-7 and AA. really? you question all of those?? 2) https://www.psacard.com/resources/gr...andards/#cards scroll down until you see "Ungradable Cards"...click on it "PSA will not grade cards that bear evidence of trimming, re-coloring, restoration, or any other forms of tampering, or are of questionable authenticity." That should about do it... Please let me know where the uncertainty is and maybe i or other board members can help you out.
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Look at these great things Brent is still doing...
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=3827 https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=3839 And Jesse you’re getting famous over on other forums too. |
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But I don't see any way to do this right. It's an altered card in a 2 holder and all the disclosure in the world isn't going to stop the buyer from reselling it without disclosure and that is a real concern.
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Unfortunately, it will just be cracked out. I'm not as tech savvy as some, but maybe some sort of application that could identify the card compared to past transactions...but then again that doesn't stop the card doctors from card doctoring cards that haven't been up for sale in recent history.
I just don't see a solution for current doctored cards unless they are destroyed...or clearly mark the card in some way. At least the card that is marked in some clear way could be scanned front and back and entered into a database so that collectors could compare the card against. I don't know. just playing the guessing game here. again, this doesn't protect the cards that are not known to be doctored...
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Here is the sale when it was in an Authentic holder
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Seems like the easy solution but still doesn't prevent crack out resubs. If they missed it once...
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Waiting on a response from Brent and I reached out to Dan as well and am waiting on his response. I will update with more information as I have it.
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As we all eagerly wait, how's everyone's Saturday night otherwise?
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There were a few factors in play that led to a delay in what I first mentioned would be the probable outcome after the blowout post. But I do believe that this is the best course of action at this time.
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That's good to hear. In my opinion that's definitely the right way to deal with the situation. No question it sucks as you innocently purchased the card and paid a good amount for it.
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Are you just assuming Moser is the consignor?
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The ones posted were won by Whitman111 which is linked to Moser.
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If this thread has taught us one thing, Moser's cards have changed hands several times.
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