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Old 05-04-2022, 11:17 AM
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no way! something like a t215 pirate set(no known complete sets) or some other obscure set with a low overall pop. overall pop of T206 is monstrous!
I think there is a complete T215 Pirate set owned by Rich, he bought it as the Mastro live auction in Cleveland about 15 years ago.
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Old 05-04-2022, 11:29 AM
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I think there is a complete T215 Pirate set owned by Rich, he bought it as the Mastro live auction in Cleveland about 15 years ago.
I hope Rich does have a complete set. But there is none listed in the PSA registry. There are only 11 cards from the set in the POP report. Certainly if there were to be a complete set graded and on the registry this would be the type of info I am looking for. I would bet 11 would be hard to top.
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Old 05-04-2022, 11:49 AM
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I hope Rich does have a complete set. But there is none listed in the PSA registry. There are only 11 cards from the set in the POP report. Certainly if there were to be a complete set graded and on the registry this would be the type of info I am looking for. I would bet 11 would be hard to top.
i was pretty sure someone was 1 card away from completion...I dunno?
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Old 05-04-2022, 07:15 PM
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I hope Rich does have a complete set. But there is none listed in the PSA registry. There are only 11 cards from the set in the POP report. Certainly if there were to be a complete set graded and on the registry this would be the type of info I am looking for. I would bet 11 would be hard to top.
I don't think Rich is a PSA registry kind of person. And I think but could be wrong he most likely has the most complete N172 set.
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Old 05-04-2022, 11:38 AM
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The T49 set which has a baseball card among the 20 would be a good example.
There's one known complete set.
And as far as I know no cards graded between PSA and SGC

Three of the cards weren't even known until 2011, about a century after they were probably issued.
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Old 05-04-2022, 11:46 AM
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If we’re counting non-sports like T49 it’s probably one of those; very few of even the tough sets get submitted.

Not a set together anymore today, but were the Alleghenies submitted all together when they were found? I don’t recall when/the story of that issue’s discovery.
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Interesting about non sport sets, but since this is a Pre War BASEBALL CARD forum, I am asking about a baseball set.
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Interesting about non sport sets, but since this is a Pre War BASEBALL CARD forum, I am asking about a baseball set.
So eliminating all the "baseball sets" that are actually part of a multi sport set?

T3/T9
T227
T332
Most N sets
W551

And many more.
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Old 05-04-2022, 12:52 PM
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So eliminating all the "baseball sets" that are actually part of a multi sport set?

T3/T9
T227
T332
Most N sets
W551

And many more.
Let's limit it to "just" the 27,846 Company sets listed in the PSA Registry under Baseball.
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If the intent is to gage true rarity, then PSA is probably not the best measure for pre-war. Regardless of PSA v. SGC v. raw, a nod has to be given first to sets like Allegheny and Alpha Engraving, which have been complete at some time in the past.

As for other sets more in the spirit, I'd think Jim B's N167 set probably tops your parameters (but I don't recall who it was graded by).

The T215 Pirate set was a near-set as memory serves when it was purchased. I'm not sure whether or not it was ever completed, but its rarity fits the direction you are heading.

E107 has been completed relatively recently for the first time, but again... not sure on the grader. That also would be right up there on the list.

I suspect that there isn't a lot of overlap on the Venn diagram of those who play the PSA registry game and those who seek pre-war, true scarcity.
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I couldnt care less if people could care less about the registry.

Pretty sure the title of the thread was specific enough, lest people pontificate.




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T206 for real? That's a guess? Not sure how many Doyle's are out there but plenty of cards more rare than the Wagner
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I couldnt care less if people could care less about the registry.

Pretty sure the title of the thread was specific enough, lest people pontificate.




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T206 for real? That's a guess? Not sure how many Doyle's are out there but plenty of cards more rare than the Wagner
Asking to learn and not question - what cards are more rare than Wagner?
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Asking to learn and not question - what cards are more rare than Wagner?
There are quite a few 1/1 - 1/10 cards out there, there was a thread here not to long ago showing quite a few.
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Asking to learn and not question - what cards are more rare than Wagner?
defined as the number of known examples, Wagner doesn't even make the conversation. Many, many cards more rare.
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defined as the number of known examples, Wagner doesn't even make the conversation. Many, many cards more rare.
Probably almost every player with a pre-war card (include Wagner himself of course) has cards rarer than a T206 Wagner.
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