The mystery of R315

[Leon]

So with my pick up a week or two ago, of this R315 strip I got to wondering who put these out and how they were distributed. Until this strip of 5 horizontal cards I had only ever seen strips of 3 vertical cards. Also, since Burdick classified "R" to be "Recent" Gum and Candy, did he know something more than we do currently, about their distribution? An undervalued set imo, and it's valuation might be in part because we don't know much about them!!

[autograf]

Interesting.......I only remember the vertical strips and hadn't seen the horizontal one(s) before.

[ethicsprof]

I don't have any answers,Leon but have to say that they are beauties and are already rising in value methinks!!
Ruth's confidence and power are breathtaking.
best,
barry

[mybuddyinc]

Not that it adds anything, but just noticed that the horizontal strip has the players position and team in small font along bottom border, while the vertical strips do not.

[Matt]

Assuming those are both period - I think maybe you've got two different issues there!

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Matt

Assuming those are both period - I think maybe you've got two different issues there!

Old Cardboard actually show four different types of R315.

http://www.oldcardboard.com/r/r315/r...?cardsetID=873

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

Old Cardboard actually show four different types of R315.

http://www.oldcardboard.com/r/r315/r...?cardsetID=873

Thanks!

[DaveW]

So Leon's horizontal strip shows that the Type B and Type D cards (Old Cardboard's Names) were printed on the same strip. That's interesting.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by DaveW

So Leon's horizontal strip shows that the Type B and Type D cards (Old Cardboard's Names) were printed on the same strip. That's interesting.

Very good! Are players known to exist with both Type B and Type D?

[Leon]

Yes, there have always been four different type captions known on these. I too thought it interesting that the horizontal strip has different captions on it. I have never seen another horizontal strip of these though I have seen about 5-10 vertical ones.....and they have always been strips of 3. The other thing is, we know Burdick made some mistakes but why the heck are these classified as a recent gum issue, "R"? BTW, who says you can't collect on a budget? The strip of 5 was $99, and in the correct category!!

[iwantitiwinit]

Are they really "strip cards" or were they actually sheet cards? Maybe originally they were from a sheet of 15 cards 5 across and 3 down and the strips you see just happen to depend on whether they were originally cut vertically or horizontally from the originating sheet.

[FrankWakefield]

I agree with the sheet comment...

Obviously, that is a horizontal strip and a vertical strip. That doesn't mean that B and D cards were printed in horizontal... although it would mean that B and D weren't printed in vertical strips only. Golly, sometimes when thinking about this stuff I feel like I'm in an old college logic class I once took. B and D's could be sheets, just as well as horizontal strips. What makes sense that all of the printing would have been the same way, instead of some vertical strips and some horizontal. I can envision that the cutting of the sheets might have varied... oops, I said it. Sheets. I think that is what was going on with these cards. Printed in sheets, distributed in strips, V's and H's.

[nolemmings]

I remember this panel when it was at auction--I shied away only because the top cut was just a bit too off center for my liking, and I had funds tied up elsewhere. I've always found a strange fascination with this set. Nice grab.

I noticed right away that the Ds were with the Bs, which I find surprising. I always thought the Cs and Ds were printed separately, as there only 6 players in those "series" and five of those are White Sox. I even wondered if they could properly be called R315s, but now it seems conclusive that they are indeed from that set.

I agree that these were cut from sheets, although they may also have been available in strips. Why the "R" designation? There must be some evidence somewhere that they were available with gum products? Obviously the "R" for recent fits, and just because they were (maybe) cut in strips doesn't mean they were available that way, or if they were, that R wouldn't apply (see R423).

Because I sort of collect this set, part of me says let's all examine this more closely, another says move along guys, nothing to see here. Good topic though.

[fkw]

Only 6 players are found with the hand letter style (4th card over on the horizontal strip), all are White Sox players.

R315's can be found with the player's name inside a small box at bottom corner (40 different), another type has the player's name in a hand lettered style near the bottom border (6 different, all WhiteSox players), and both of these types can be found with the position and team name typed in the bottom border. There are also caption variations known, and the cards are found in B&W or a scarcer Yellow stock.


I like the much tougher Yellow Cards, anyone have a strip of the yellow cards?

[nolemmings]

Actually, one of the 6 series C/D players is Harvey Hendricks (sic) of Brooklyn, and the other 5 are White Sox.