FS 1952 Topps Jackie Robinson

[1952boyntoncollector]

Decently centered

will want more than $2000..and take best offer.

This card sold...buyer said he LOVED the card..the white spots really minor in real life

[1952boyntoncollector]

1800..

[Peter_Spaeth]

Look forward to the other 52s....

[bobbyw8469]

wow!!! I had a 4.5 that I sold for under $1,000. I wish I still had that card back!

[1952boyntoncollector]

psa 4's routinely sell for 1000 on ebay as recently as 2 days ago and theres another one listed now thats at 500 with 4 days left....

i trying to save ebay fees..thanks

[1952boyntoncollector]

That card sold the psa 6.5...so wont be listed..

[autograf]

What are the white dots above the bat? On the holder? Paper loss on card?

[1952boyntoncollector]

not paper loss....wouldnt of been given a psa 5 ..just not red i have see white spots on other 1952s.....centering is really good for this jackie

[1952boyntoncollector]

theres a little white mark over the hat...the scan really blows up the white spots...in real life isnt nearly has noticeable..maybe should just take a picture...

[1952boyntoncollector]

Heres a photo..pardon the shadow..

[1952boyntoncollector]

1725...looks like ebay wins again and will make fees on a no reserve auction..

[1952boyntoncollector]

sold! was a nice card..tough to say goodbye...

[1952boyntoncollector]

nice to see my old friend on ebay again...guess the buyer didnt love him so much...and he was consigned..bidding already over 1700..

[Peter_Spaeth]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-J...item20f1286e31

It's now higher than almost any reported sale of a 6, and a world record for a 5. And hours to go still. The wonders of PWCC.

[1952boyntoncollector]

buy the card not the grade...

[1952boyntoncollector]

i begging for 1725 on this forum for that card......wont even try to sell my jackie psa 8 here!

[BlueBlood]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

buy the card not the grade...

Not to bag on your ex card, but the white markings flaw was probably the reason it wasn't sold here..They were probably looking at the card not the grade..

[Peter_Spaeth]

Fear not, a world record is upon us in PWCC.

[1952boyntoncollector]

i think the centering on that psa 5 though is really good...tons of cards have some spots on them....i think the card is a strong psa 5...

but who cares i dont have the card anymore..i also had that campy 6.5 thats selling tonight..i got it bumped from a psa 6 to a psa 6.5.....i think it was listed here as well and didnt sell for a price that will be hundreds less than it will sell for ..

[Peter_Spaeth]

You have to understand that there is a very limited market here compared to the whole world which is watching ebay. Especially for postwar. Sometimes stuff sells, sometimes it doesn't, it all depends on who is looking for what when, but no need to be complaining about the BST. I've had some very successful sales here but you can't expect that consistently.

[1952boyntoncollector]

not complaining...just pointing out the solid deals i have offered..and to look for more deals...i have made great deals here as well...also bought a lot of cards here real nice..... its free to post here..why would i complain...

not sure why you are complaining that i am complaining when i not complaining.....so stop complaining!

[Peter_Spaeth]

This to me is a complaint, or a diss, or something.

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i begging for 1725 on this forum for that card......wont even try to sell my jackie psa 8 here!

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

This to me is a complaint, or a diss, or something.

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i begging for 1725 on this forum for that card......wont even try to sell my jackie psa 8 here!

yeah out of context...jackie psa 8 sold anyway...

[Peter_Spaeth]

2477 with two hours to go. Sometimes, things strain credulity.

[1952boyntoncollector]

PWCC doing really well with the 1952s..look how much the Nuxall is at..or the #12 Basgall......a big uptick in prices on 1952s..i going to send my high numbers to him it looks like..

[1952boyntoncollector]

where you are offered are card on the forum for 1700 and 2 months later the same card sells on ebay for 2700...1000 dollars more...

[autograf]

wow.....it sold for more than the PSA6 did without the dots. Four 1952 Robinson's from PWCC closing on the same night. The PSA3 wasn't a bad deal for the look/condition. Straining Credulity is an aprapos phrase...........

[Peter_Spaeth]

It sold for more than ANY reported PSA 6 -- a full grade higher -- has ever sold for. Please.

[1952boyntoncollector]

well you cant say the buyer bought the psa 5 for the grade not the card since the psa 6 went for less.....

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

where you are offered are card on the forum for 1700 and 2 months later the same card sells on ebay for 2700...1000 dollars more...

I'm having a hard time understanding what you even say. I don't mean to be presumptuous that English is your first language but if it is can you make a bit more of an effort to be clear?

[calvindog]

And the two underbidders in this PWCC auction bid on almost exclusively PWCC auctions -- which suggests this could be yet another shilled auction. Who on earth would pay that price for that ugly 5?

[1952boyntoncollector]

makes no sense to put in shill bids at least at the point when already 500 over the highest price ever for a psa 5 .....that only your opinion that card was ugly...many bidders not agree....

[calvindog]

I can't decide what's worse -- your grammar or logic. Do you have to pay $100 for each word you type and that prevents you from adding all the necessary words to form a sentence? And do white print marks help a card's value or hurt it? Here's your answer: in every auction but Probstein and PWCC the marks hurt the card's value.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I think he may be paid not to use apostrophes?

[calvindog]

i not believe that ... think PWCC just solds better....me hungry.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Even with the spots it was THAT much better than any other one.

12/2/14 eBay Auction | Image prewarcardcollector d***f 25 $2,607.77
7/20/14 eBay Auction | Image probstein123 e***e 43 $2,042.42
6/4/14 eBay Image boyd_wilson5whl n***d 24 $1,755.00
5/14/14 Heritage Image 10 $1,673.00
3/16/14 eBay Image autographsink n***n 29 $1,815.00
12/4/13 eBay Image prewarcardcollector u***r 46 $1,826.00
11/3/13 eBay Image prewarcardcollector l***a 23 $1,363.00
5/28/13 eBay Image probstein123 d***i 26 $1,158.77

[calvindog]

takes it out of context....pwcc solds best....i sells my 52 topps now...me tarzan you jane

[frankbmd]

I'd like to correct the grammar for you Jeff, but I am still working on the first sentence.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Frank you may need some of these.
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[1952boyntoncollector]

right attack the grammar but not the point that the card has several bids over $2000...no reason to shill when already record high

sometimes cards go up in value....even jackie robinsons that are centered amazing enough..

if past prices never changed and stayed the same forever..why are there price changes...eventually a card will go for more or for less than price history..

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Even with the spots it was THAT much better than any other one.

12/2/14 eBay Auction | Image prewarcardcollector d***f 25 $2,607.77
7/20/14 eBay Auction | Image probstein123 e***e 43 $2,042.42
6/4/14 eBay Image boyd_wilson5whl n***d 24 $1,755.00
5/14/14 Heritage Image 10 $1,673.00
3/16/14 eBay Image autographsink n***n 29 $1,815.00
12/4/13 eBay Image prewarcardcollector u***r 46 $1,826.00
11/3/13 eBay Image prewarcardcollector l***a 23 $1,363.00
5/28/13 eBay Image probstein123 d***i 26 $1,158.77

This is an upward trend in a year..looks like the card almost doubled in price. in a year...why cant it go up 30% more in 6 months......the other psa 5s not centered as well...i thought you buy the card not the grade?

also why even argue..proof is in the pudding.. ..it wasnt a buy it now..there were several bidders above $2000......even if the card not worth 2600..can be in the 2300 range in the next auction...no reason to be surprised if that happened...

[calvindog]

Sorry, I don't usually criticize grammar except when it's so painfully idiotic so as not to be believed. I honestly think that English is your second language. If not, perhaps you can explain to us why some sentences end with two periods, some end with none -- but no sentence ends with a single period.

And the "upward trend in a year" you mention is solely the work of two auction houses in which fraud is rampant: Probstein and PWCC -- based on their prior auction results which are suspect anyway. Regardless if the card is "centered amazing enough" (whatever that means -- I'll consult my ape/English translation program, however you previously described the centering as "decent[]."), it has an obvious print defect on the front. To suggest that this card is the wonderful specimen of all specimens to cause such a jump in price is laughable, even Mastro-like in its dishonesty.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Here is what the card looked like a few months ago when it sold, presumably to Jacob, for 1755. What a difference a scan makes.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Sorry, I don't usually criticize grammar except when it's so painfully idiotic so as not to be believed. I honestly think that English is your second language. If not, perhaps you can explain to us why some sentences end with two periods, some end with none -- but no sentence ends with a single period.

And the "upward trend in a year" you mention is solely the work of two auction houses in which fraud is rampant: Probstein and PWCC -- based on their prior auction results which are suspect anyway. Regardless if the card is "centered amazing enough" (whatever that means -- I'll consult my ape/English translation program, however you previously described the centering as "decent[]."), it has an obvious print defect on the front. To suggest that this card is the wonderful specimen of all specimens to cause such a jump in price is laughable, even Mastro-like in its dishonesty.

wow some may think you are personally attacking a poster on an issue of baseball cards...man real important to "look" real witty in a baseball card forum.

anyway..i think its just your opinion that the card isnt a great specimen for a psa 5.and not the final authority on the matter...we are talking general eye appeal.....but 3 others disagree that bid all time highs...i really dont see fraud happening when there is bidding with several bidders over an all time high...maybe to get the all time high, but once at the all time high you really got to be a conspiracy theory guy to think that they would play around with losing a deal when already above that limit

also you disagree with past sales because of the auction houses...well when the auction houses including ebay make up of the major part of the market share..i tend to cite those sales instead of some sales that make up very little of the market share..silly me...

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Here is what the card looked like a few months ago when it sold, presumably to Jacob, for 1755. What a difference a scan makes.

i didnt buy the card for 1755...i 100% bought it off ebay...FYI....

[Peter_Spaeth]

OK fair enough my bad but my point was it sold in June for 900 less than it just sold for. Markets don't change that fast. SAME exact card.

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

OK fair enough my bad but my point was it sold in June for 900 less than it just sold for. Markets don't change that fast. SAME exact card.

I disagree. I have made flips in less than a week for many factors more than the discussed sale on cards I thought I had paid too strong on.

[Peter_Spaeth]

On a readily available non rookie non Mantle/Ruth card in midgrade?

[calvindog]

......with numerous print defects ....... .. ..... .. .. ...

[calvindog]

.... Fyi .... .. .. .