Des Moines team cabinet

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Posted By: ramram

Thought I'd share an interesting recent Ebay pick up.

Below is a clearer scan than you may have seen on the Ebay auction. Many of the faces may be familiar from their representatives in the Old Judge set but I'm not quite sure yet as to who is who. The players are superimposed in front of a game-in-progress shot from their ballpark, "Athletic Park". As you can tell, the photographer has washed the player's legs out below the knees to make them appear to be standing in the grass. This image dovetails with the recent cabinet card of the 1888 Des Moines team from the REA auction (second image below) and Trevor's massive imperial cabinet of this same image (third image below) [Trevor - I hope you don't mind me showing this]. All three images have the same game-in-progress shot within them.

I believe my image may be from the 1887 season as that is Des Moines first team. In the REA image you can see that the Photographer is LaRoche - "Successors to Boyd". The image I have is by Boyd which obviously places it before LaRoche's 1888 image.

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Posted By: barrysloate

Rob-Was that imperial cabinet cut that way to house the corresponding Old Judges, or was that something just done in photoshop? Neat pickup, by the way. Interesting how the photographer constructed that cabinet image.

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Posted By: ramram

Barry -
The imperial is Trevors...or at least I think he still has it. He apparently just used Photoshop to show the corresponding Old Judge cards along with their photo depiction on the imperial.

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Posted By: Steve

Hello
Not to be rude or anything, but may I ask what you gave for it on E-bay....I live in IA and am always on the lookout for some examples of some material of the Des Moines and the Sioux City teams.
Thanks

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Posted By: craig

oh well great pickup. at first glance i thought that was the one that trevor owns. after comparison i determined it wasn't, just another that has surfaced. i have a couple other boyd des moines baseball photos as well a few of la roche's. as far as i have been able to determine, la roche bought out boyd's studio in late october or early september 1887. however by august 1888 la roche left des moines to photograph the klondike gold rush. when he left he sold his studio back to the boyds. hope that helps you in the dating. if you would like i can email some of the images that i have of the 87-88 boyd & la roche photos.

craig

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Posted By: ramram

Thanks Craig. I'd love to see the other cabinets. Can you post on here? If not, email me and I'll post them for you (rmorgan4@kc.rr.com).

You're information about the LaRoches and Boyds is interesting. I guess that means that the image I have does not necessarily predate LaRoche's if Boyd bought the studio back. Makes me scratch my head as to what year it might then be.

Below is yet another version:

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Posted By: Rich Jacobs

Rob: I won the 1888 Des Moines cabinet from REA, and all I can tell you is that it is even more spectacular in person than from the catalogue. The catalogue suggested that it might be unique. I emailed both Barry Sloate and Lew Lipset asking whether they had seen another. Barry responded that he had not, but Lew said he had had two very detailed Des Moines cabinets in his collection "in his prime." Rob Lifson said he believed the one I bought came from Lew's collection via George Lyons' collection (the purchase included a 1978 Trader Speaks with the cabinet on the cover, and an inside story identified as being in Lyons' collection).

It may well be that Trevor's is the other one Lew described. Has anyone seen either in any other context?

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Posted By: ramram

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5191484126&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT

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Posted By: Adam J. Moraine

I am from Des Moines, Iowa and I think the cabinet photo is AWESOME!

Best Regards,

Adam J. Moraine

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Posted By: craig

adam

i'm also from dm. maybe we could meet up and do some trading or catch a cubbie game.

craig

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Posted By: Steve

Thanks for the link....Some really great examples posted on here !!