I can "swing both ways." Last night (see the May pickups thread) I bought three new Helmars--and a classic 1910 Red Sun.  I go largely by aesthetics, old or new,  so Helmars interest me a good deal.  Could care less if they go up in value.  It's funny that so many here will write, "by the card, not the holder," testify against such a focus on valuation, and then knock on Helmars.  As far as I know, Charles has never promised that value will go up.  Here's one of my latest, which is 3 X 6 and evokes old-time trolley ads:  
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