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Originally Posted by jp1216
Leonard Helicher - one of the OG FF dealers. Sadly passed in early 2020. He always said - ALL Whiteout cards (not White Scribbles) are FAKE. He had direct links inside Fleer and obtained lots of stuff smuggled out by employees.
I obtained many rare cards from Lenny!
I'm still amazed how many people buy these fake/altered cards every week. Hundreds of dollars each. Too many scammers taking a $1 Black Box version and printing money five minutes later. Graded/Authentic or not - they are Post Production creations! Hand altered after printing. Smooth surface or not. Consistent shine/gloss or not. They were likely never printed this way.
I always consider the White Scribble the true 'whited out' card. Legit factory printed version.
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So this is very helpful. There is an obvious distinction between "white scribble' and 'whiteout,' correct? Most examples of a
white scribble do appear to be printed on the card which makes sense because there doesnt seem to be variance in the remaining bits of the knob words. Done by hand would require a ton of effort to match a real example.
If I understand correctly,
whiteouts are all human made, either via Fleer employees in 1989 or people attempting to trick buyers. This my next question, why would PSA slab a card with an aberrant surface? Can't imagine they'd miss the texture difference.
Lastly, so in your collecting history, have you ever encountered what Gilkeson describes in a white box "nearly identical to the black box" version? I will reread this guide every few years and almost always find something new to look into, in this case, I had never heard of (or seen) a white box version of this card.