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Old 07-24-2023, 08:28 PM
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Default Real curious to see National reports

Interesting time in the hobby for sure.

The bottom has fallen out of most of the modern stuff. People have taken massive body blows.

Breaking industry has been pummeled.

Vintage well off its Covid spring 2020 highs but holding up.

Memorabilia seems flat to me. Mania in tickets and some other areas seems well off peak.

Auctions seemingly never end. So much material. Fear of missing out seems to be low.

Industry consolidation in modern and vintage.

PWCC, the name synonymous with collecting as investing has blown up.

The reports will be fun to read. A lot of eye candy to be sure, but how many big ticket items are moving in this market?

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Old 07-24-2023, 08:55 PM
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Interesting time in the hobby for sure.

The bottom has fallen out of most of the modern stuff. People have taken massive body blows.

Breaking industry has been pummeled.

Vintage well off its Covid spring 2020 highs but holding up.

Memorabilia seems flat to me. Mania in tickets and some other areas seems well off peak.

Auctions seemingly never end. So much material. Fear of missing out seems to be low.

Industry consolidation in modern and vintage.

PWCC, the name synonymous with collecting as investing has blown up.

The reports will be fun to read. A lot of eye candy to be sure, but how many big ticket items are moving in this market?
I think you covered it. Good synopsis.

I am guessing prices (prices of the asking nature) will be strong. Dealers will report they had the best show ever but most collectors will say they could not buy anything. Lines will be long at PSA. The other TPG will have no lines worth mentioning. I predict lots of flippers on the floor trying to move modern into vintage.
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Old 07-24-2023, 09:07 PM
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U forgot fractional ownership, vaults, nfts.
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Old 07-25-2023, 12:40 AM
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Oh yeah. Other areas. NFTS. I remember the first time Heritage sold a NFT of one still of a Michael Jordan dunking clip. Six figures I think. I couldn’t imagine what I was seeing. Was this the future? Uh, no.

A lot of change and then more change.

The last few years have been a wild ride.
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Steve just go on you tube there will be millions of videos one after another ,,read %??
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Old 07-25-2023, 04:52 AM
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Steve just go on you tube there will be millions of videos one after another ,,read %??
That there are and even Instagram has lots of recaps and analysis in short segments.

I am more interested to see our peers that are going to National and those selling to let us know
1. how were the crowd sizes and how many kids there(especially with their card carriers)
2. How many Vintage vs Modern tables
3. How the sales and trades were
4. How the prices were fetching at National vs Auctions
5. How much fun they had at the Net54 Get together
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Just the market resetting to show value of true scarcity of older cards versus modern man made "rarity". I predict high demand nice quality pre-war cards will do better than ever at the National and moving forward.
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The wheel keeps on turning!

The guy I primarily collected, The Commerce Comet himself, will continue to perform strongly along with the rest of the blue chip legends of the game. It's been a while since I've checked out memorabilia, as I've taken a break in terms of buying things. Only time will tell however.
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Interesting time in the hobby for sure.

The bottom has fallen out of most of the modern stuff. People have taken massive body blows.

Breaking industry has been pummeled.

Vintage well off its Covid spring 2020 highs but holding up.

Memorabilia seems flat to me. Mania in tickets and some other areas seems well off peak.

Auctions seemingly never end. So much material. Fear of missing out seems to be low.

Industry consolidation in modern and vintage.

PWCC, the name synonymous with collecting as investing has blown up.

The reports will be fun to read. A lot of eye candy to be sure, but how many big ticket items are moving in this market?
Agreed, good synopsis. Yesterday, while perusing the REA auction, I was taken aback by the sheer numbers of the same card up for bid. Granted it was early, but quite a few solid cards and zero bids. After looking at all the lots, I came away with the feeling of collectors trying to cash-in at the presumed top.

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I was talking to a good friend about this yesterday. Earlier this year, I thought the National interest would be down to several factors.

The past few months, I changed my mind. I expect not only sky high prices at the National, but I also expect people to be spending large amounts. It seems that everyone has disposable money at the National, and they will be spending. Good time to be a dealer at the show
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I was talking to a good friend about this yesterday. Earlier this year, I thought the National interest would be down to several factors.

The past few months, I changed my mind. I expect not only sky high prices at the National, but I also expect people to be spending large amounts. It seems that everyone has disposable money at the National, and they will be spending. Good time to be a dealer at the show
I have no doubt there will be massive crowds and it will be a great scene.

The energy in that room is insane. The first National I went to in AC I walked out after like 4 hours and set down outside on a bench to collect my wits. I felt light headed and dizzy. It was just sensory overload.

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I am more curious on the REA results, I think this is a better bellwether for the market. I scanned through and there look to be a dozen red cobbs, interested to see the market appetite for the most liquid, broadly collected, high end T206 card. I think until we actually see and feel a recession, the market will shrug everything off.

The general consensus has changed to a mild, short recession if any at all
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