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Not an Old Judge proof. That pose was used in 1887 when Brouthers was on Detroit. This cabinet was obviously made after he moved to Boston in 1889. Not sure how an Old Judge image ended up on a Conly mount though. It could be that Conly purchased the image from Goodwin or this could be an Old Judge photo rebacked on a Conly mount. No idea.
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Example here: https://www.detroithistorical.org/le...inet-25#slide1 In early 1888 the glass plate negative was marked with name, position, and team (DETROITS). Some time after Brouthers signed with Boston (Oct 16, 1888), the Goodwin negatives were updated to Boston (likely happened early 1889). The albumen print is likely from 1889 but not sure how it ended up on Conly mount. It is possible that Conly made Old Judge cards and cabinets for Goodwin but havent seen other examples of on Conly mounts. Might study print and mount a little closer to see if damage and markings match such as the crease at upper left. It is a nice image of Brouthers, could be interesting insight into who made the 1889 N172s and N173s.
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great show. I was able to find a great example of the Beecher to add to my set, down to one card. I saw only this one Beecher at the show (well, that guy on REA Marketplace is holding so many, all of which are not as nice as this one.)
I also added some floating hot dogs to my growing set, but there werent many in the room and the Williams was marked very high on a few tables (thankfully i bought that one first). Finally, i couldnt resist this group of 8 E93s (and one E95 of Crawford) that were too beautiful to pass up. Now a new project . the National was so much fun, i am sorry to have to wait a year for the next one. Those concrete floors though rough on the body. Paul |
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It has the same back as Daley, Haddock and Buffington in the following lot REA sold from 1891: https://collectrea.com/archives/2022...-collection-10 I bought it from a very reputable dealer who is an expert in this era photographs so I really don't think it was rebacked. Is it possible that Conly purchased the rights of the photo to use around 1891 as he was still in Boston at this time? (1889-91) Are there any other examples of Studios buying from Goodwin to reissue Cabinets around this time? Last edited by Schwertfeger1007; 08-06-2025 at 01:39 AM. |
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Following up on what Joe said I doubt that Conly was involved in the 1889 or early-1890 Old Judge production process. Could Conly have bought the rights to the image and produced cards of it on its' own mount---this is possible, but raises the question of why would Conly, a Boston photographer, need to buy someone else's image--it could shoot its' own. I think the most likely scenario is a rebacking, albeit a professional looking one.
I think you are right to look at when Conly used that style mount. Brouthers played in Boston from 1889-1891. However, in 1890 he was on the Player's League team, and I believe Conly did his own photographs of that team. If the mount style dates from 1891 why use a Goodwin image when Conly had its' own 1890 ones or could shoot new ones. Therefore, to me the only hope of the cabinet being a true Conly issue is if it is from 1889. To me this is the second most likely case after rebacking. If the mount style is post-1889 it makes it difficult for me to believe that it is anything but rebacked. |
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Sorta anticlimactic I suppose. Was on tilt after once again dithering on a card and missing out (this time Geoffs wonderful Cy Young Barehand). BUT! I did manage to close out (74) T206 HOFers. Endless thanks to the Net54 community for helping me get it done.
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I got this cool 1905 A's postcard from a fellow board member.
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![]() Probably the most "far-reaching" caption change in the T213-2 set: Billy Chappelle, Rochester is depicted as Larry Chappell, Cleveland. img326.jpg Did Larry play for Cleveland during T213-2 production .................. ???? LChap.png Of course he did .................... !!! Fun, fun, Scott
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Congrats on the new holder on the Seamless Jeff! Definitely much for fitting for such a special card, one of the coolest cards in the hobby in my opinion. Great 1914 Cracker Jack Cobb add too Rob Ben, Wonderful Wolverine Cobb RC Love the Maple Crispette Ruth and US Caramel Gehrig above as well!!! and the T206 Cobb and Goudey Ruths! So much great stuff here!
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Wow...nice group!
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Congratulations on knocking down a Drum! Great card! Bob
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