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pd[2380869] = '<!-' + '- post #2380869 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2380869" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2380869" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2380869&amp;postcount=3" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2380869" name="3"><strong>3</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2380869"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				10-15-2023, 04:49 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2380869">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=751859">Snowman</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="Snowman is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2380869", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nTravis\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Tra,vis Tr,ail - Banned\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Jul 2021</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 2,446\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2380869">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2380869">\r\n			\r\n			Babe Ruth swung a 50 oz bat in his early years, and later transitioned to 44 and 42 oz bats during his prime. The only reason that was possible is because he was facing slow pitching. Extremely slow pitching. You can watch old footage and clearly see him waiting on pitches as he sets his weight back in his stance and turns on balls with his large frame and as he swings a lamp post at a ball of leather.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nBut he was still the best hitter of that era. Could he hit fast pitching? I don\'t think we have any way of knowing. Some hitters can learn to hit faster pitching, but others can\'t. It\'s why some top prospects eventually fail at the big leagues. Some guys are absolute monsters at the plate when facing 88 to 92 mph pitching, but they reach the end of their limits after that and can\'t turn on 96+ mph pitches. If Ruth were alive today, he\'d have to drop down to a 35 oz bat just to get it around in time. His entire swing would have to change. Could he do it? Possibly. But we\'ll never know. 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Walter Johnson want throwing anywhere near 100 mph. Most of the pitching in that era was in the 70 to 80 mph range. Guys throwing 80+ were throwing heat. WaJo might have touched 90. And<font color="Red"><b> I\'d wager my right nut that he never once threw a ball above 92 mph.</b></font></div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Travis, I\'d have to believe that he threw at least one pitch over 92 mph.   What happens if you won?  What do you get in return?  I\'d settle for a T206 Joss "lstoi" card....\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				fr3d c0wl3s - always looking for OJs and other 19th century stuff.  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Walter Johnson want throwing anywhere near 100 mph. Most of the pitching in that era was in the 70 to 80 mph range. Guys throwing 80+ were throwing heat. WaJo might have touched 90. And I\'d wager my right nut that he never once threw a ball above 92 mph.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>So young kids that can hit 85-90+ in high school just didn&#8217;t exist back then? I went to high school in Maine and we faced Matt Kinney (eventually made the majors with the Twins) and he was routinely hitting 90+ then. 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It\'s now 3:43.  Over the same time the shot put record has gone from 16+ meters to 23+ meters.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Weight training is far more advanced today than it was then and that is obviously true. 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Most workouts were calisthenics at the time and that combined with the unnatural things also done by those in strength sports has aided in a lot of the increase in the shotput record.those same things don&#8217;t help in all sports but there are obvious sports where the sports themselves hardly resemble the sport played 100 years ago or even 50 years ago&#8230;baseball is not that sport.<br />\n<br />\nThe mile time difference has a lot more to do with equipment and track conditions than you are giving it credit for but i think you know that</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>It feels to me like the notion that baseball is somehow unique and exempt from the patterns we see in other sports is a romantic one.  Just my opinion.  Athletes get better over time and I don\'t see baseball as an exception.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				Four phrases I nave coined that sum up today\'s hobby:<br />\r\nNo consequences.<br />\r\nStuff trumps all.<br />\r\nThe flip is the commoodity.<br />\r\nAnimal Farm grading.\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 10-15-2023 at <span class="time">11:06 PM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2380969" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2380969 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2380969_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Peter_Spaeth</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=43">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2380969 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2380969 -' + '->';
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They got Olympic sprinter Andre De Grasse to run under similar conditions as Jesse Owens.  De Grasse was a bronze medalist at the 2016 Olympics in the 100m<br />\r\n<br />\r\nHow fast did he run under these conditions? 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Let’s go down that rabbit hole for a minute, even though we can’t know for sure. Johnson always said that his ability to throw hard was just natural. “From the time I held a ball, it settled in the palm of my right hand as though it belonged there,” he said.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAnd while we can’t tell you exactly how fast the ball went, we do have a clue. Johnson was the first pitcher to have his fastball’s speed measured. True, it was measured by an archaic (and ingenious) apparatus developed by the Remington Arms Company. But it’s something. Remington had developed the machine to time the speed of bullets. Johnson’s fastball seemed the obvious next thing.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nJohnson and another pitcher, Nap Rucker, showed up in a large room at the Remington lab in Connecticut. The scientists had him stand 60 feet, 6 inches away and throw his fastball through a mesh square. The ball would brush through the mesh, triggering the clock. Then, 15 feet later, the ball would slam into a metal plate, stopping the clock. Johnson’s fastball covered that distance in .1229 seconds, which means that it traveled 122 feet per second.*<br />\r\n<br />\r\n*Rucker topped out at 113 feet per second.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThis became a pretty famous measurement of the time: 122 feet per second! That’s fast! As newspapers reported in the day, “The Twentieth Century Limited, flying at a mile a minute gait over the rails, makes only 88 feet per second!” He threw it faster than a train!<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThis was not the reason Johnson was called Big Train, by the way. We’ll get to that.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nWhat is 122 feet per second as we would understand it now?<br />\r\n<br />\r\nIt is 83.2 miles per hour.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nIt’s OK to feel let down. But the story isn’t over yet.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nFirst, there’s the measurement point. As mentioned above when talking about how fast Feller and Ryan really threw, the speed of today’s pitchers is measured out of the hand. Feller’s pitch was measured as it crossed the plate. But Johnson’s pitch was measured seven and a half feet after it crossed the plate.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nSo, that requires a major adjustment. The “Fastball” physicists did the calculations and found that today Walter Johnson’s pitch would actually be measured at 94 mph or so.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThat’s obviously very fast, though it certainly would not make anyone in today’s game back away. But there’s more: Johnson threw the ball with a shirt and tie on. He did not throw off of a mound. And most of all, he did not throw as hard as he could because he was trying to guide his pitches through the target. 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Humans have NOT evolved in the 5 or so generations from 1900 to today. The differences are in nutrition, health, training etc.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nSo could 1927 Babe Ruth hit today\'s pitching? Maybe.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nBut could Babe Ruth born in 1995 and able to avail himself of everything players today have at their disposal hit today\'s pitching. Of freaking course he could.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>"Nutrition, health, training etc." are way, way overrated. These guys stub their toe or get a blister, and they go on the IL, all the while collecting millions upon millions of dollars.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI will leave this discussion with this, and some of you aren\'t going to like it.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nYou guys are obviously highly, highly educated and successful in life by any measure. How else could you afford the very expensive cards we all love?<br />\r\n<br />\r\nWhy, then, this weird fixation on the pitching in the 1920s and 30s as crazily inferior, while trying to justify the pitching of today?<br />\r\n<br />\r\nDo you realize how you make yourselves sound in doing this?<br />\r\n<br />\r\nLet me reiterate - I played high school and American Legion baseball, and I know how fast the pitching was. I am almost 66 years old. There is a huge outdoor recreation area/amusement park maybe 5 miles from where I live that has go-karts, mini golf, driving range and, among other things, very sophisticated baseball batting cages that ALL the high school teams around here regularly utilize. They have pee wee, junior high, high school, minor and major. As a form of exercise and stress relief, I regularly use the high school cage, 78 mph. Minor is 84, and major is 90. I can hit 78 even now at 66, and I\'m just some schmo. I can occasionally foul one or two off in the minor cage. The safety monitors won\'t even allow me into major.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nPlease, please, PLEASE...for the love of God...stop saying that the MAJOR LEAGUE pitching in the 1920s and 30s and 40s and 50s was 70/80 mph.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI break out in laughter when you write that insanely dumb stuff. You truly have no realization as to what you\'re saying, how incredibly dumb it sounds. I wasn\'t around, I don\'t know, but with a grand total of 16 teams in all the major leagues, and after hearing that Walter Johnson, Lefty Grove, Bob Feller, and on and on and on, when they bore down the ball made a certain "zzzzzz" noise as it went by. That\'s the heat, folks. That\'s what it sounds like. 70/80 mph? 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You truly have no realization as to what you\'re saying, how incredibly dumb it sounds. I wasn\'t around, I don\'t know, but with a grand total of 16 teams in all the major leagues, and after hearing that Walter Johnson, Lefty Grove, Bob Feller, and on and on and on, when they bore down the ball made a certain "zzzzzz" noise as it went by. That\'s the heat, folks. That\'s what it sounds like. 70/80 mph? That insults my intelligence.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I think you\'re not quite understanding my claim, or perhaps I didn\'t state it clearly enough rather. I\'m not saying that the best arms during that era were only capable of pitches in the 70-80 mph range. I\'m claiming that the MEDIAN pitch speed that these hitters saw was likely in the high 70s, low 80s. It\'s really not that much of a stretch. Median pitch speeds mean half the balls they faced were above that speed, and half were below. This would include fastballs and off-speed pitches. As a point of comparison, even the median fastball when Ken Griffey Jr. was called up in 1989 was about 87 mph. That\'s 1989. So the median pitch speed (fastballs &amp; off-speed pitches) was certainly lower than that. Likely low 80s. Saying that the median pitching speeds from the 1920s was likely in the high 70s isn\'t exactly a stretch and it\'s almost certainly true. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nYou seem more interested in what the top speeds that the best pitchers were capable of, which is a different question. I think there were likely several guys throwing mid to high 80s fastballs, with a few elite arms like Walter Johnson touching low 90s. But none of these guys were capable of 100 mph. Sorry, but that simply wasn\'t happening back then. 50 oz bats would not have been used by anyone if they were facing 100 mph pitching. It\'s simply not possible for anyone to turn on pitches that fast with lumber that heavy.<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>jingram058</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=2381143#post2381143" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">...As a form of exercise and stress relief, I regularly use the high school cage, 78 mph. Minor is 84, and major is 90. I can hit 78 even now at 66, and I\'m just some schmo. I can occasionally foul one or two off in the minor cage. The safety monitors won\'t even allow me into major.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I think this is an interesting note you\'ve made here. You can hit 78 mph pitching with some sort of relative consistency, but dial that up by just 6 mph and what previously had been a relatively easy, or at least achievable, task has now become so challenging that you can barely get a foul tip on the ball at those speeds. A few mph really does make all the difference in the world at the plate. This is precisely what this debate is all about. We know these hitters from the 1920s were hitting slower pitching. Hell, just from the time Griffey was called up in 1989 to what hitters are facing today on average, the  median fastball has gone up by more than 6 mph. That\'s a remarkable jump. And the pitchers from the 1920s to 1989 were even a bigger jump than that. The median fastball today is without question AT LEAST 10-12 mph faster than it was in the 1920s. And a difference of 10-12 mph is, as you\'ve noted, significant enough for someone capable of hitting 78 mph pitching to not even be allowed in the cage by the safety personnel at your local batting cage. That\'s how big of a difference the pitching was that these guys were facing in the 1920s vs what guys are facing today. It\'s a completely different game.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nCould some of the best hitters from that era have adjusted to faster pitching and still been star players? Sure, absolutely. Some of them would. But some of them also wouldn\'t. Which players could and which players couldn\'t is anyone\'s guess. But I don\'t think it\'s as simple as just rank ordering the players and saying all the best ones would have still been great. It\'s not a linear transition. Some guys can just absolutely destroy 91 mph pitching, but they can\'t hit 100 mph. This is why top prospects fail so often. 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The increased torque required for that seems to result in increased injuries and surgeries.  Personal observation but I would guess it&#8217;s supported somewhere. <img src="forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" /> I imagine many great hitters of the past would be able to catch up to the speed with training but in their day they most likely never had to think about facing a 100mph pitch, much less a constant barrage of them.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Right.  Even assuming some top pitchers from the 20s could hit the low 90s, there\'s no chance they were throwing consistently  in the 90s for 9 innings every 4th day.  I don\'t care how manly they were compared to today\'s wimps.<br />\n<br />\nPedro famously said to wake up the Bambino so he could drill him in the ass, but if he had thought about it he probably would have said so he could strike him out.  <img src="forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				Four phrases I nave coined that sum up today\'s hobby:<br />\r\nNo consequences.<br />\r\nStuff trumps all.<br />\r\nThe flip is the commoodity.<br />\r\nAnimal Farm grading.\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 10-16-2023 at <span class="time">07:59 PM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2381182" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2381182 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2381182_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Peter_Spaeth</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=43">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2381182 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2381182 -' + '->';
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Even assuming some top pitchers from the 20s could hit the low 90s, there\'s no chance they were throwing consistently  in the 90s for 9 innings every 4th day.  I don\'t care how manly they were compared to today\'s wimps.<br />\n<br />\nPedro famously said to wake up the Bambino so he could drill him in the ass, but if he had thought about it he probably would have said so he could strike him out.  <img src="forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" /></div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>This is so silly. Pitchers in the 1960s and \'70s were doing this REGULARLY throughout the course of any given season. Jim Palmer, for example, pitched 25 complete games one year. This year, the entire American League starting pitcher staff only combined for 22.<br />\n<br />\nOh, and Pedro would get the same wakeup call pitching to Ruth that Satchel Paige got when his fastball in 1935 was turned into a 450+ foot blast over the centerfield fence.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by robw1959; 10-16-2023 at <span class="time">08:58 PM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2381203" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2381203 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2381203_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">robw1959</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=179701">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=179701" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to robw1959</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=179701" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by robw1959</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2381203 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2381203 -' + '->';
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Pitchers in the 1960s and \'70s were doing this REGULARLY throughout the course of any given season. Jim Palmer, for example, pitched 25 complete games one year. This year, the entire American League starting pitcher staff only combined for 22.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nOh, and Pedro would get the same wakeup call pitching to Ruth that Satchel Paige got when his fastball in 1935 was turned into a 450+ foot blast over the centerfield fence.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I doubt it.  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I\'m not saying that the best arms during that era were only capable of pitches in the 70-80 mph range. I\'m claiming that the MEDIAN pitch speed that these hitters saw was likely in the high 70s, low 80s. It\'s really not that much of a stretch. Median pitch speeds mean half the balls they faced were above that speed, and half were below. This would include fastballs and off-speed pitches. As a point of comparison, even the median fastball when Ken Griffey Jr. was called up in 1989 was about 87 mph. That\'s 1989. So the median pitch speed (fastballs &amp; off-speed pitches) was certainly lower than that. Likely low 80s. Saying that the median pitching speeds from the 1920s was likely in the high 70s isn\'t exactly a stretch and it\'s almost certainly true. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nYou seem more interested in what the top speeds that the best pitchers were capable of, which is a different question. I think there were likely several guys throwing mid to high 80s fastballs, with a few elite arms like Walter Johnson touching low 90s. But none of these guys were capable of 100 mph. Sorry, but that simply wasn\'t happening back then. 50 oz bats would not have been used by anyone if they were facing 100 mph pitching. It\'s simply not possible for anyone to turn on pitches that fast with lumber that heavy.<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI think this is an interesting note you\'ve made here. You can hit 78 mph pitching with some sort of relative consistency, but dial that up by just 6 mph and what previously had been a relatively easy, or at least achievable, task has now become so challenging that you can barely get a foul tip on the ball at those speeds. A few mph really does make all the difference in the world at the plate. This is precisely what this debate is all about. We know these hitters from the 1920s were hitting slower pitching. Hell, just from the time Griffey was called up in 1989 to what hitters are facing today on average, the  median fastball has gone up by more than 6 mph. That\'s a remarkable jump. And the pitchers from the 1920s to 1989 were even a bigger jump than that. The median fastball today is without question AT LEAST 10-12 mph faster than it was in the 1920s. And a difference of 10-12 mph is, as you\'ve noted, significant enough for someone capable of hitting 78 mph pitching to not even be allowed in the cage by the safety personnel at your local batting cage. That\'s how big of a difference the pitching was that these guys were facing in the 1920s vs what guys are facing today. It\'s a completely different game.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nCould some of the best hitters from that era have adjusted to faster pitching and still been star players? Sure, absolutely. Some of them would. But some of them also wouldn\'t. Which players could and which players couldn\'t is anyone\'s guess. But I don\'t think it\'s as simple as just rank ordering the players and saying all the best ones would have still been great. It\'s not a linear transition. Some guys can just absolutely destroy 91 mph pitching, but they can\'t hit 100 mph. This is why top prospects fail so often. More so than in any other sport. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nAnd since I like data, here\'s a plot of median fastball speeds from 2002 to 2019. <br />\r\n...</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Later in his career, Ruth, knowing he needed a timing edge against fastballs, switched to a much lighter bat and got even better homerun results than what he got with the big stick.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2381211" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2381211 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2381211_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">robw1959</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=179701">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=179701" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to robw1959</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=179701" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by robw1959</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2381211 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2381211 -' + '->';
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It\'s now 3:43.  Over the same time the shot put record has gone from 16+ meters to 23+ meters.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Training plans and how weight training is used has also changed drastically over that same time. As has technique. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nHere\'s a video showing shot put over about a century. You can see the gradual transition from everyone using a slide step, to nearly everyone using the current rotary approach. Plus differences in both techniques. <br />\r\nThe guys winning modern competitions with the slide step are amazing, but obviously have weight trained for explosiveness compared to the earlier competitors. <br />\r\n<br />\r\n<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDslPFs3Irw&amp;t=281s" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDslPFs3Irw&amp;t=281s</a> <br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe old idea was that in many althletic areas weight training just added mass and hurt speed and flexibility. 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They first tested his reaction time, expecting his to be much faster than an average person. It was not, in fact his reaction time was very much in the average range. <br />\nSo why is he an excellent hitter? <br />\nThe next test was flashing pictures of a pitcher throwing a variety of pitches.<br />\nI don\'t recall exactly, but the image was shown either very briefly, or until he pressed a button. (All this is in a SI article from a few years ago) <br />\nHe was not only far faster than average at identifying pitches, but could also tell location from a very briefly seen still picture. Far faster than even decent college hitters, and far far faster than fairly random people including ones who had better reaction times. <br />\n<br />\nThe second is more anecdotal, but I believe it says a lot. <br />\n<br />\nThe club I was in had a speaker who had played as a player when Ted Williams was managing. <br />\nThe first year he said was wonderful, Ted focused on fundamentals like waiting for a good pitch. Team batting improved. <br />\n<br />\nYear two he started losing them. <br />\nThey asked one time for advice on hitting Nolan Ryan. <br />\nTeds advice was - early in the game I\'d try to hit the top of the ball and drive it somewhere. Later I\'d try to hit the bottom of the ball to try and get more distance. <br />\nwhich the speaker said was not helpful as most of the guys were asking how to hit pitches they couldn\'t really see. <br />\n<br />\nFrom those things, I\'d say the most important part of hitting is having that ability to see and interpret what is being seen quickly enough and well enough. And I have to think that all the top hitters since the beginning have had that ability. So a Ruth or a Williams or anyone else at that sort of level would still be a top hitter today. <br />\nThat might be different for the typical player. <br />\nThe other part of the Williams thing was that one of the players just neve rreally got it. 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They first tested his reaction time, expecting his to be much faster than an average person. It was not, in fact his reaction time was very much in the average range. <br />\r\nSo why is he an excellent hitter? <br />\r\nThe next test was flashing pictures of a pitcher throwing a variety of pitches.<br />\r\nI don\'t recall exactly, but the image was shown either very briefly, or until he pressed a button. (All this is in a SI article from a few years ago) <br />\r\nHe was not only far faster than average at identifying pitches, but could also tell location from a very briefly seen still picture. Far faster than even decent college hitters, and far far faster than fairly random people including ones who had better reaction times. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe second is more anecdotal, but I believe it says a lot. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe club I was in had a speaker who had played as a player when Ted Williams was managing. <br />\r\nThe first year he said was wonderful, Ted focused on fundamentals like waiting for a good pitch. Team batting improved. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nYear two he started losing them. <br />\r\nThey asked one time for advice on hitting Nolan Ryan. <br />\r\nTeds advice was - early in the game I\'d try to hit the top of the ball and drive it somewhere. Later I\'d try to hit the bottom of the ball to try and get more distance. <br />\r\nwhich the speaker said was not helpful as most of the guys were asking how to hit pitches they couldn\'t really see. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nFrom those things, I\'d say the most important part of hitting is having that ability to see and interpret what is being seen quickly enough and well enough. And I have to think that all the top hitters since the beginning have had that ability. So a Ruth or a Williams or anyone else at that sort of level would still be a top hitter today. <br />\r\nThat might be different for the typical player. <br />\r\nThe other part of the Williams thing was that one of the players just neve rreally got it. To the point that one game Williams stood at the top of the dugout steps yelling out what pitch was coming and the guy still couldn\'t hit. <br />\r\nYes, that must have also been a major distraction...</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I forgot where I read this, but it was an article about Ruth\'s ability to hit home runs.  Sometime at his peak, a group of academics decided to time Ruth\'s reaction to an incoming pitch when he swung. According to their findings, Ruth was fractionally quicker when he swung in comparison to other hitters that were measured.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nConsidering that the methods and tools used in this test were barbaric in comparison to today\'s standards, we would have to guess what the speed of his reaction time would be today.  Let\'s say that we transported Ruth to the time when Pujols reaction time was tested.  If Ruth took that same test and still maintained a quicker reaction time than the average ballplayer of today, he would possibly have a chance to peform well.  In any era, that reaction time would give an advantage to any hitter. Yes, there are other factors, plate discipline, the type of swing, etc. that influence the possible outcome of any at bat.  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Is there anything you can point to that isn&#8217;t a natural ability of Ruth&#8217;s? I don&#8217;t see any reason to suggest he couldn&#8217;t hit a baseball thrown faster. Being that he played in the era of spitballs I&#8217;m not really seeing any evidence for him not being able to hit breaking balls. He hit 342 over his career without striking out more than 93 times in a season.<br />\n<br />\nHe could hit the ball. And he broke the mold without any intervention from anyone else. He did everything he did with only natural instincts and no analytics or coaching. He was born Babe Ruth and I still fail to see any reason why his skills wouldn&#8217;t translate to any time he lived. To me he represents the pinnacle of ability. 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Is there anything you can point to that isn’t a natural ability of Ruth’s? I don’t see any reason to suggest he couldn’t hit a baseball thrown faster. Being that he played in the era of spitballs I’m not really seeing any evidence for him not being able to hit breaking balls. He hit 342 over his career without striking out more than 93 times in a season.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nHe could hit the ball. And he broke the mold without any intervention from anyone else. He did everything he did with only natural instincts and no analytics or coaching. He was born Babe Ruth and I still fail to see any reason why his skills wouldn’t translate to any time he lived. To me he represents the pinnacle of ability. The most elite player among the elite.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Being the greatest of all time does not really speak to how he would fare after 100 years of gains in human performance though, if the hypothetical involves taking  him just as he was and beaming him into the present.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				Four phrases I nave coined that sum up today\'s hobby:<br />\r\nNo consequences.<br />\r\nStuff trumps all.<br />\r\nThe flip is the commoodity.<br />\r\nAnimal Farm grading.\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2381061" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2381061 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2381061_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Peter_Spaeth</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=43">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2381061 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2381061 -' + '->';
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What couldn\'t he do? And why not? This is a guy who rolled out of bed as Babe Ruth. If the hypothetical is placing him in today\'s game where he\'d probably be playing at an elite prep school during his adolescence and surrounded by elite coaching with modern analytics, why wouldn\'t you think he\'d be even better? 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What couldn\'t he do? And why not? This is a guy who rolled out of bed as Babe Ruth. If the hypothetical is placing him in today\'s game where he\'d probably be playing at an elite prep school during his adolescence and surrounded by elite coaching with modern analytics, why wouldn\'t you think he\'d be even better? If that was even possible.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>+1 on that. He was so far ahead of anyone with a bat in his day that, with only a couple of exceptions, he rendered everyone else to insignificance. And that after being a superb pitcher. And, except for "the big bellyache", he did it for years without breaking down. And he did it without even trying.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nBut he did have one other thing, in the absence of "metrics" and data. According to Waite Hoyt who knew him as well as anyone, he had a computer for a mind. 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You guys are harping on relief pitchers throwing 100 MPH but if you watch baseball it\'s pretty clear that it isn\'t hard for a major league player to hit 100 MPH. Relief pitchers are consistently not very good when you look at them as a whole. It\'s not uncommon to see ERA\'s in the 4 and 5 range for bullpen arms. Starting pitching isn\'t much better on the whole either. If you have a 4.15 ERA that\'s considered pretty decent now.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>The modern baseball has been altered. Over the past several years, the stitches have been sewn down closer to the surface, making the ball more aerodynamic. 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What couldn\'t he do? And why not? This is a guy who rolled out of bed as Babe Ruth. If the hypothetical is placing him in today\'s game where he\'d probably be playing at an elite prep school during his adolescence and surrounded by elite coaching with modern analytics, why wouldn\'t you think he\'d be even better? If that was even possible.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>The same reason I don\'t think you could take anyone from the 1920s in any sport ss they were and expect them to be anywhere near the same level as today\'s athletes:  humans are stronger, faster, and quicker by a substantial factor.  How would Jim Thorpe, exactly as he was, do in a decathlon today?  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There are limitations of the human body that mean the basics of baseball can only change so much. For Babe Ruth not to be Babe Ruth in any era, he\'d have to have some kind of weakness in his game. I don\'t see any. And baseball isn\'t like football or basketball. 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There are limitations of the human body that mean the basics of baseball can only change so much. For Babe Ruth not to be Babe Ruth in any era, he\'d have to have some kind of weakness in his game. I don\'t see any. And baseball isn\'t like football or basketball. You can take a player from the 20s and show him baseball in 2023 and he\'d recognize it.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>And you could take Jesse Owens and he would recognize a track and long jump pit.  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And therefore what?</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>My point was that all sports aren\'t the same. Baseball as a sport has changed very little in the past 100 years. It\'s managed differently in game, but the game is the same and the same skills that made you an elite player like Ruth translate the same way today.<br />\n<br />\nIt\'s like saying Willie Mosconi wouldn\'t be as good at billiards now. 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Baseball as a sport has changed very little in the past 100 years. It\'s managed differently in game, but the game is the same and the same skills that made you an elite player like Ruth translate the same way today.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nIt\'s like saying Willie Mosconi wouldn\'t be as good at billiards now. Why not?</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Billiards is not an athletic pursuit.  Baseball obviously is.  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pn[2381217] = "2381215,2381218";
pn[2381218] = "2381217,2381220";
pn[2381220] = "2381218,2381266";
pn[2381266] = "2381220,2381221";
pn[2381221] = "2381266,2381482";
pn[2381482] = "2381221,2380870";
pn[2380870] = "2381482,2380873";
pn[2380873] = "2380870,2380878";
pn[2380878] = "2380873,2380888";
pn[2380888] = "2380878,2380979";
pn[2380979] = "2380888,2380984";
pn[2380984] = "2380979,2381064";
pn[2381064] = "2380984,2381223";
pn[2381223] = "2381064,2381235";
pn[2381235] = "2381223,2381288";
pn[2381288] = "2381235,2381293";
pn[2381293] = "2381288,2381267";
pn[2381267] = "2381293,2381282";
pn[2381282] = "2381267,2381284";
pn[2381284] = "2381282,2381285";
pn[2381285] = "2381284,2381289";
pn[2381289] = "2381285,2381305";
pn[2381305] = "2381289,2381307";
pn[2381307] = "2381305,2381314";
pn[2381314] = "2381307,2381316";
pn[2381316] = "2381314,2381318";
pn[2381318] = "2381316,2381320";
pn[2381320] = "2381318,2381330";
pn[2381330] = "2381320,2381332";
pn[2381332] = "2381330,2381338";
pn[2381338] = "2381332,2381355";
pn[2381355] = "2381338,2381356";
pn[2381356] = "2381355,2381369";
pn[2381369] = "2381356,2380750";

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pu[0] = guestphrase;
pu[557] = "kmac32";
pu[307554] = "bnorth";
pu[655] = "Touch\\\'EmAll";
pu[43] = "Peter_Spaeth";
pu[104352] = "Mark17";
pu[625200] = "ALBB";
pu[838466] = "bandrus1";
pu[203547] = "puckpaul";
pu[699421] = "BobbyStrawberry";
pu[629436] = "JimC";
pu[617066] = "Snapolit1";
pu[544] = "Fred";
pu[134] = "doug.goodman";
pu[103] = "rhettyeakley";
pu[625374] = "jakebeckleyoldeagleeye";
pu[474242] = "Centauri";
pu[751859] = "Snowman";
pu[691039] = "jingram058";
pu[806] = "oldjudge";
pu[179701] = "robw1959";
pu[781198] = "Lucas00";
pu[13322] = "71buc";
pu[330055] = "todeen";
pu[10106] = "glchen";
pu[629719] = "CJinPA";
pu[386] = "packs";
pu[665005] = "jsfriedm";
pu[4257] = "steve B";
pu[14327] = "Delray Vintage";
pu[577439] = "rats60";
pu[4250] = "parkerj33";
pu[617532] = "G1911";
pu[616859] = "Yoda";
pu[630320] = "Tere1071";
pu[619282] = "Aquarian Sports Cards";
pu[105524] = "JollyElm";
pu[762807] = "Carter08";
pu[624106] = "eliotdeutsch";
pu[688499] = "Casey2296";
pu[850311] = "EddieP";
pu[69] = "ullmandds";
pu[177] = "tedzan";
pu[626284] = "jayshum";
pu[522] = "Vintageclout";

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writeLink(2380750, 0, 0, 557, "", "Hypothetical Question, could...", "10-15-2023", "09:11 AM", 0);
  writeLink(2380753, 0, 0, 307554, "T", "<i>Ruth back then transported to...</i>", "10-15-2023", "09:22 AM", 0);
    writeLink(2380774, 0, 0, 655, "I,L", "<i>Fun question to ponder.  Take...</i>", "10-15-2023", "10:44 AM", 0);
      writeLink(2380775, 0, 0, 43, "I,1,T", "<i>What about Mays and Aaron? ...</i>", "10-15-2023", "10:55 AM", 0);
      writeLink(2380776, 0, 0, 104352, "I,1,T", "<i>I think guys with compact...</i>", "10-15-2023", "10:56 AM", 0);
        writeLink(2380777, 0, 0, 625200, "I,1,I,L", "ruth", "10-15-2023", "11:00 AM", 0);
          writeLink(2380778, 0, 0, 43, "I,1,I,1,T", "<i>From Bill James. \n...</i>", "10-15-2023", "11:03 AM", 0);
          writeLink(2380779, 0, 0, 838466, "I,1,I,1,L", "<i>Ruth, time traveled in his...</i>", "10-15-2023", "11:04 AM", 0);
            writeLink(2380780, 0, 0, 307554, "I,1,I,2,L", "<i>and the modern AA player...</i>", "10-15-2023", "11:08 AM", 0);
              writeLink(2380783, 0, 0, 203547, "I,1,I,3,T", "<i>Ruth was the best hitter back...</i>", "10-15-2023", "11:17 AM", 0);
                writeLink(2380784, 0, 0, 699421, "I,1,I,3,I,L", "<i>Pitchers throw much harder...</i>", "10-15-2023", "11:33 AM", 0);
                  writeLink(2380786, 0, 0, 629436, "I,1,I,3,I,1,L", "<i>In sports you have...</i>", "10-15-2023", "12:07 PM", 0);
                    writeLink(2380790, 0, 0, 617066, "I,1,I,3,I,2,L", "<i>It always an interesting...</i>", "10-15-2023", "12:27 PM", 0);
                      writeLink(2380792, 0, 0, 544, "I,1,I,3,I,3,T", "<i>What about Roy Hobbs?  :p</i>", "10-15-2023", "12:29 PM", 0);
                      writeLink(2380819, 0, 0, 134, "I,1,I,3,I,3,T", "<i>Re-interpreting the question...</i>", "10-15-2023", "02:43 PM", 0);
                      writeLink(2380845, 0, 0, 625374, "I,1,I,3,I,3,L", "<i>Let's see today's boys go...</i>", "10-15-2023", "04:00 PM", 0);
                        writeLink(2380847, 0, 0, 134, "I,1,I,3,I,4,L", "<i>I agree that they wouldn't...</i>", "10-15-2023", "04:03 PM", 0);
                          writeLink(2380849, 0, 0, 625374, "I,1,I,3,I,5,T", "<i>Wonder if they would also...</i>", "10-15-2023", "04:09 PM", 0);
                          writeLink(2380850, 0, 0, 103, "I,1,I,3,I,5,T", "<i>I think todays hitters would...</i>", "10-15-2023", "04:13 PM", 0);
                          writeLink(2380851, 0, 0, 625374, "I,1,I,3,I,5,L", "<i>Wonder if they would like...</i>", "10-15-2023", "04:13 PM", 0);
              writeLink(2380824, 0, 0, 103, "I,1,I,3,L", "<i>Bullshit! \n \nYou guys...</i>", "10-15-2023", "03:20 PM", 0);
                writeLink(2380826, 0, 0, 134, "I,1,I,4,T", "<i>Nailed it!</i>", "10-15-2023", "03:22 PM", 0);
                  writeLink(2380848, 0, 0, 625374, "I,1,I,4,I,L", "<i>Have news for you Lou Gehrig...</i>", "10-15-2023", "04:07 PM", 0);
                    writeLink(2380852, 0, 0, 134, "I,1,I,4,I,1,L", "<i>The only weights I like are...</i>", "10-15-2023", "04:14 PM", 0);
                      writeLink(2380855, 0, 0, 43, "I,1,I,4,I,2,L", "<i>It's interesting how people's...</i>", "10-15-2023", "04:17 PM", 0);
                        writeLink(2380862, 0, 0, 699421, "I,1,I,4,I,3,T", "<i>What do you see as the...</i>", "10-15-2023", "04:29 PM", 0);
                          writeLink(2380868, 0, 0, 43, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,L", "<i>I think a large number of...</i>", "10-15-2023", "04:45 PM", 0);
                            writeLink(2380890, 0, 0, 699421, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,1,L", "<i>Makes sense. Thanks for...</i>", "10-15-2023", "05:50 PM", 0);
                        writeLink(2380863, 0, 0, 474242, "I,1,I,4,I,3,T", "<i>In the past, the best most...</i>", "10-15-2023", "04:29 PM", 0);
                          writeLink(2380869, 0, 0, 751859, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,L", "<i>Babe Ruth swung a 50 oz bat...</i>", "10-15-2023", "04:49 PM", 0);
                            writeLink(2380871, 0, 0, 751859, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,1,L", "<i>And before you guys chime in...</i>", "10-15-2023", "04:53 PM", 0);
                              writeLink(2380910, 0, 0, 544, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,T", "<i>Travis, I'd have to believe...</i>", "10-15-2023", "07:26 PM", 0);
                                writeLink(2380912, 0, 0, 179701, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,L", "<i>A well-aged Ruth, in 1935,...</i>", "10-15-2023", "07:38 PM", 0);
                              writeLink(2380913, 0, 0, 103, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,T", "<i>So young kids that can hit...</i>", "10-15-2023", "07:39 PM", 0);
                                writeLink(2380923, 0, 0, 43, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,T", "<i>In 1930 the world record for...</i>", "10-15-2023", "08:17 PM", 0);
                                  writeLink(2380957, 0, 0, 103, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,T", "<i>Weight training is far more...</i>", "10-15-2023", "10:35 PM", 0);
                                    writeLink(2380969, 0, 0, 43, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,T", "<i>It feels to me like the...</i>", "10-15-2023", "11:01 PM", 0);
                                      writeLink(2380973, 0, 1, 103, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,I,L", "<i>These were The tracks that...</i>", "10-15-2023", "11:22 PM", 0);
                                        writeLink(2381097, 0, 0, 577439, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,I,1,L", "<i>I think this is what you are...</i>", "10-16-2023", "01:25 PM", 0);
                                    writeLink(2381028, 0, 0, 13322, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,T", "<i>The elite athletes born in...</i>", "10-16-2023", "09:21 AM", 0);
                                      writeLink(2381029, 0, 0, 665005, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,I,L", "<i>From Joe Posnanski's Baseball...</i>", "10-16-2023", "09:23 AM", 0);
                                    writeLink(2381114, 0, 0, 616859, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,T", "<i>I was thinking of Babe Herman...</i>", "10-16-2023", "03:14 PM", 0);
                                    writeLink(2381131, 0, 0, 619282, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,L", "<i>These questions bother me...</i>", "10-16-2023", "04:06 PM", 0);
                                      writeLink(2381136, 0, 1, 105524, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,1,T", "<i>593413</i>", "10-16-2023", "04:22 PM", 0);
                                      writeLink(2381143, 0, 0, 691039, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,1,L", "<i>&quot;Nutrition, health, training...</i>", "10-16-2023", "04:41 PM", 0);
                                        writeLink(2381149, 0, 1, 751859, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,2,L", "<i>I think you're not quite...</i>", "10-16-2023", "05:29 PM", 0);
                                          writeLink(2381153, 0, 0, 762807, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,3,T", "<i>The current thinking in...</i>", "10-16-2023", "05:43 PM", 0);
                                            writeLink(2381159, 0, 0, 751859, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,3,I,T", "<i>I forgot to address the...</i>", "10-16-2023", "06:13 PM", 0);
                                            writeLink(2381161, 0, 0, 624106, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,3,I,T", "<i>Love this Ted talk on the...</i>", "10-16-2023", "06:25 PM", 0);
                                            writeLink(2381182, 0, 0, 43, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,3,I,L", "<i>Right.  Even assuming some...</i>", "10-16-2023", "07:53 PM", 0);
                                              writeLink(2381203, 0, 0, 179701, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,3,I,1,L", "<i>This is so silly. Pitchers in...</i>", "10-16-2023", "08:54 PM", 0);
                                                writeLink(2381206, 0, 0, 43, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,3,I,2,L", "<i>I doubt it.  If Koufax was,...</i>", "10-16-2023", "09:02 PM", 0);
                                          writeLink(2381211, 0, 0, 179701, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,3,L", "<i>Later in his career, Ruth,...</i>", "10-16-2023", "09:14 PM", 0);
                                  writeLink(2381037, 0, 0, 4257, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,T", "<i>Training plans and how weight...</i>", "10-16-2023", "09:48 AM", 0);
                                    writeLink(2381043, 0, 0, 4257, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,T", "<i>Here are a few things that...</i>", "10-16-2023", "10:13 AM", 0);
                                      writeLink(2381126, 0, 0, 630320, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,I,L", "<i>I forgot where I read this,...</i>", "10-16-2023", "03:53 PM", 0);
                                    writeLink(2381046, 0, 0, 655, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,L", "<i>You have to at least give the...</i>", "10-16-2023", "10:19 AM", 0);
                                      writeLink(2381056, 0, 0, 386, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,1,L", "<i>Why isn&#8217;t there one already?...</i>", "10-16-2023", "11:09 AM", 0);
                                        writeLink(2381061, 0, 0, 43, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,2,L", "<i>Being the greatest of all...</i>", "10-16-2023", "11:40 AM", 0);
                                          writeLink(2381062, 0, 0, 386, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,3,L", "<i>Sure but that's what I'm...</i>", "10-16-2023", "11:49 AM", 0);
                                            writeLink(2381068, 0, 0, 691039, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,4,T", "<i>+1 on that. He was so far...</i>", "10-16-2023", "12:04 PM", 0);
                                              writeLink(2381069, 0, 0, 386, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,4,I,L", "<i>Modern pitching isn't even...</i>", "10-16-2023", "12:07 PM", 0);
                                                writeLink(2381201, 0, 0, 179701, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,4,I,1,L", "<i>The modern baseball has been...</i>", "10-16-2023", "08:52 PM", 0);
                                            writeLink(2381071, 0, 0, 43, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,4,L", "<i>The same reason I don't think...</i>", "10-16-2023", "12:07 PM", 0);
                                              writeLink(2381072, 0, 0, 386, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,5,L", "<i>But we're talking about...</i>", "10-16-2023", "12:10 PM", 0);
                                                writeLink(2381073, 0, 0, 43, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,6,L", "<i>And you could take Jesse...</i>", "10-16-2023", "12:15 PM", 0);
                                                  writeLink(2381074, 0, 0, 386, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,7,L", "<i>My point was that all sports...</i>", "10-16-2023", "12:16 PM", 0);
                                                    writeLink(2381076, 0, 0, 43, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,8,T", "<i>Billiards is not an athletic...</i>", "10-16-2023", "12:30 PM", 0);
                                                      writeLink(2381081, 0, 0, 386, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,8,I,L", "<i>I don't agree with that. If...</i>", "10-16-2023", "12:40 PM", 0);
                                                        writeLink(2381090, 0, 0, 43, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,8,I,1,L", "<i>It would take him 5 minutes...</i>", "10-16-2023", "12:53 PM", 0);
                                                          writeLink(2381092, 0, 0, 386, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,8,I,2,L", "<i>The point I have consistently...</i>", "10-16-2023", "12:56 PM", 0);
                                                    writeLink(2381093, 0, 0, 330055, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,8,T", "<i>Thank you for posting this....</i>", "10-16-2023", "01:02 PM", 0);
                                                    writeLink(2381098, 0, 0, 10106, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,8,L", "<i>I think a player like Ruth...</i>", "10-16-2023", "01:26 PM", 0);
                                                      writeLink(2381099, 0, 0, 386, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,9,L", "<i>But what are you pointing to...</i>", "10-16-2023", "01:37 PM", 0);
                                                        writeLink(2381101, 0, 0, 4250, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,10,T", "<i>One other factor I haven't...</i>", "10-16-2023", "02:00 PM", 0);
                                                          writeLink(2381104, 0, 0, 617532, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,10,I,L", "<i>I wonder if Pheidippides...</i>", "10-16-2023", "02:07 PM", 0);
                                                            writeLink(2381110, 0, 0, 43, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,10,I,1,L", "<i>From Marathon to Athens,...</i>", "10-16-2023", "02:51 PM", 0);
                                                        writeLink(2381112, 0, 0, 43, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,10,L", "<i>I think either you buy that...</i>", "10-16-2023", "02:54 PM", 0);
                                                          writeLink(2381115, 0, 0, 691039, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,I,11,L", "<i>You nailed it, sir.</i>", "10-16-2023", "03:18 PM", 0);
                                  writeLink(2381213, 0, 0, 625374, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,L", "<i>And how shot putters have...</i>", "10-16-2023", "09:17 PM", 0);
                                writeLink(2380924, 0, 0, 781198, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,T", "<i>In all honesty the...</i>", "10-15-2023", "08:19 PM", 0);
                                  writeLink(2380943, 0, 0, 751859, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,L", "<i>Your hypothesis isn't even...</i>", "10-15-2023", "09:36 PM", 0);
                                    writeLink(2380977, 0, 0, 781198, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,1,L", "<i>Baseball was a global sport...</i>", "10-15-2023", "11:47 PM", 0);
                                      writeLink(2380978, 0, 0, 103, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,I,2,L", "<i>Interesting hypothetical...</i>", "10-16-2023", "12:26 AM", 0);
                                writeLink(2380938, 0, 0, 751859, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,L", "<i>Just because we didn't have...</i>", "10-15-2023", "09:23 PM", 0);
                                  writeLink(2380955, 0, 0, 103, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,1,T", "<i>100% comically false...</i>", "10-15-2023", "10:23 PM", 0);
                                  writeLink(2380966, 0, 0, 179701, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,I,1,L", "<i>I don't buy into that stuff...</i>", "10-15-2023", "10:52 PM", 0);
                              writeLink(2380996, 0, 0, 691039, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,2,L", "<i>Travis, I like you from afar....</i>", "10-16-2023", "06:13 AM", 0);
                        writeLink(2380864, 0, 0, 134, "I,1,I,4,I,3,T", "<i>Note that I didn't pickup...</i>", "10-15-2023", "04:37 PM", 0);
                          writeLink(2380866, 0, 0, 43, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,L", "<i>Right but you've changed the...</i>", "10-15-2023", "04:41 PM", 0);
                            writeLink(2380935, 0, 0, 134, "I,1,I,4,I,3,I,1,L", "<i>I would posit that I haven't...</i>", "10-15-2023", "09:17 PM", 0);
                        writeLink(2380961, 0, 0, 13322, "I,1,I,4,I,3,L", "<i>I absolutely agree</i>", "10-15-2023", "10:49 PM", 0);
                writeLink(2380827, 0, 0, 103, "I,1,I,4,L", "<i>I honestly don’t know who...</i>", "10-15-2023", "03:25 PM", 0);
                  writeLink(2380832, 0, 0, 544, "I,1,I,5,T", "<i>Oh, now that some perspective...</i>", "10-15-2023", "03:34 PM", 0);
                  writeLink(2380834, 0, 0, 134, "I,1,I,5,L", "<i>Today's AVERAGE player would...</i>", "10-15-2023", "03:41 PM", 0);
                    writeLink(2381015, 0, 0, 629719, "I,1,I,6,L", "<i>It sounds as if you're...</i>", "10-16-2023", "08:20 AM", 0);
                      writeLink(2381019, 0, 0, 307554, "I,1,I,7,L", "<i>I love these type of posts....</i>", "10-16-2023", "08:47 AM", 0);
                        writeLink(2381021, 0, 0, 386, "I,1,I,8,T", "<i>This is just simply not true....</i>", "10-16-2023", "09:03 AM", 0);
                          writeLink(2381026, 0, 0, 307554, "I,1,I,8,I,L", "<i>LOL, Ruth outhitting the...</i>", "10-16-2023", "09:19 AM", 0);
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			These were The tracks that Jesse Owens and all those before the 1960’s ran on…<br />
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These were his shoes, the track and the [lack of] starting blocks(see attached images)<br />
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I get that you hold the eternal contrarian POV Peter but you are being silly comparing Jesse Owens times directly to a modern High Schooler.
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