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Old 04-01-2020, 08:23 PM
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Not sure thats apples to apples, he mentions loss of life is important too just as he states what happened in the market.....theres no narrative there unless someone wants to force a narrative
That is a nice bit of equivocation. He didn't ever mention the loss of life until it was blatantly obvious that the loss of life will be substantial. There is plenty of ink out there regarding the President's early (non)reactions to the virus. But, here are two of my favorites:

February 24
: The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me! (Note on 2/24, the DJIA closed at 27,938. Today closed at 20,910.)

February 26:And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.

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as to contradicting actual disease experts, what exactly does contradict mean, actions are different than words. The experts say varying things and to be flexible..i dont think they said do exactly this or else..
I am referring specifically to his pushing of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin as some kind of miracle cure, when there is absolutely no evidence it works. Hydroxychloroquine is an anti-malarial and azithromycin is an antibiotic. Neither are anti-virals. Now, it is entirely possible that they may work. After all, rogaine started out as a blood pressure medicine. However, there has been no clinical trials and the two most publicized studies of their use have such huge procedural flaws that it is impossible to draw any scientifically sound conclusions from them. And I've heard no responsible doctor or relevant scientist say otherwise.

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Also it has been said if you are the leader the buck stops with you. So if you listen 100% to what leading experts say and they are wrong, then you will get fired for being wrong (hiring the wrong guys etc) Its already been established on this thread that if you are wrong you are fired..
Come on now. Are you really trying to suggest that Trump was listening to experts all along? I've seen plenty of experts talk about this (I have a friend and a brother-in-law who are both virologists) and all of them were sounding the alarm. Heck, even the political class was sounding the alarm. On February 4, Chris Murphy, a senator from Connecticut said the following: "Just left the Administration briefing on Coronavirus. Bottom line: they aren't taking this seriously enough. Notably, no request for ANY emergency funding, which is a big mistake. Local health systems need supplies, training, screening staff etc. And they need it now."
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I not for or against the guy, but throwing around generalities whether its pro democrat or pro republican doesnt do any good imo..
You'll have to point out for me where I made any comment about anyone political affiliation. Noting gross incompetence isn't political.
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