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This is what happens when EMR team reports get ignored
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And this is what happens when they don't get ignored.
This lot, https://catalog.scpauctions.com/LotD...px?lotid=24652 in the current SCD auction, used to belong to me (I am NOT the consignor.) About a year ago, I listed it on eBay. It had a full PSA CoA, which could be verified online. Yet it was removed. An eBay watcher contacted me, though, and we struck a deal--with full right of return if his authenticator of choice--JSA or PSA--rejected it. Needless to say, it was not returned. I had also listed it in the B/S/T here, so I marked it "sold." I was immediately attacked by two Net54 members for perpetrating a fraud--selling a ball that had been removed by eBay! How dare I?! I wondered at the time how they knew so quickly the listing had been pulled. I knew nothing, at that time of eBay's "EMR team." What a surprise to learn later that those two are members. What a coincidence! |
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I remember that whole thread!
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They may have done me a favor, though.
No eBay fees. |
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Greg - I remember the thread too.
And FYI - Only a very well known hobby person has the authority to pull PSA authenticated items from ebay. It is not someone who is on Net54 but it is someone that is highly respected by all in the hobby.
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And who on the board reports to this "very well known hobby person"?
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Still waiting, Richard.
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Didn't know that Richard, thanks for the info. I have a guess who it is
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Not sure what you are referring to Rookie (ridiculously uncalled for) but the ball was pulled by ebay and nobody on Net54 had anything to do with it. As I said the person who had it pulled is not a Net54 member. There are a number of Net54 members who are part of the EMR team but those people do not have the influence to pull a PSA or JSA item. Having a contractual agreement with ebay has its advantages.
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BS, Richard. You can't have it both ways. You're continually taking credit for being a member of the "EMR team," which reports to eBay "suspicious items," in order to have them removed. You're constantly pissing and moaning about "nobody at eBay listening to you anymore." In fact, that's why you started this thread.
Never thought it would turn out this way, did you? Last edited by David Atkatz; 04-15-2013 at 03:59 PM. |
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Don't know what he says but I obviously have a stalker on here now .
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"Don't know what he says." LOL!
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It sure does!
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Not one person on this site can take down a PSA or JSA cert. In fact it is almost impossible to take down Global. There is only one person that Ebay feels is better qualified than those other Tpa's. That is the only person that has that power.
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The person I'm thinking of isn't a board member. Greg |
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That is correct.
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Global gets taken down all the time, regardless of the authenticity of the item.
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Nice obfuscation, guys. But it won't work. No one is accusing anyone here of "taking the item down."
The person(s) here reported the item--as member(s) of the EMR team--in order to have the item removed. What did Richard title this thread? "This is what happens when EMR team reports are ignored." (Emphasis added.) Ignored by whom? That "very well known hobby person." Last edited by David Atkatz; 04-15-2013 at 04:56 PM. |
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Should have left out Global.
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There are people who are EMR's with no expertise at all. It's just who you know at ebay. that's it. Last edited by travrosty; 04-15-2013 at 05:23 PM. |
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And knowing someone at ebay has nothing to do with this. There is no benefit to EMR members for removing autographs.
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that's all i wanted to say. it doesnt have a lot to do with someones expertise, a lot of really good experts are not only NOT emr's, then routinely have some of their stuff removed off of ebay, by other people who are and just want to screw with them and use their ebay influence against other people they don't like. POLITICAL. the benefit is that they have the power to remove autographs they dont like, from people they dont like if they choose to misuse the power, which some do and some don't. Last edited by travrosty; 04-16-2013 at 07:38 AM. |
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And if this person is an EMR why would he even bother to become an EMR if he is not an expert? Just askin'.
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And he has the power to have autographs he does like removed--if they're from people he doesn't like. (All the while publicly patting himself on the back, never letting us forget what a tireless protector of the hobby he is.)
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The piece in question is now gone.
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Travis - tell me who in the EMR team is misusing their power. That person can be removed from the team very quickly.
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That's a joke, right? (I wonder who it could be. Hmmm... )
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They're listening to you again! Whew! That's a real load off my mind!
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I'm just a simple small town attorney so maybe I missed the veiled references; who is this magical authority whose word is law at ebay
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only they know who is them
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If Yoda lives in Michigan....then yes!
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Well, if that's the case then...I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together. Don't forget, the Walrus was Paul!
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This person wants to remain anonymous. If any of you comedians here were the one that I was talking about and you requested anonymity how would you feel if I told the board who you were? And you guys better be good or your ebay attempted sales will all vanish. .
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- James Madison The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. - Patrick Henry Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants - Justice Louis Brandeis Everybody knows that corruption thrives in secret places, and avoids public places, and we believe it a fair presumption that secrecy means impropriety. - Woodrow Wilson Secrecy, being an instrument of conspiracy, ought never to be the system of a regular government. - Jeremy Bentham Secrecy is for losers. - Senator Patrick Moynihan They're on double-secret probation! - Dean Vernon Wormer
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"Many a truth is spoken in jest."
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I guess your word does not mean as much to you as my word means to me. The gentleman requested anonymity, I will honor that request. If he asked you for anonymity I guess you would have told him yes and then revealed his name to the group. I guess that is good for the group, to know that they should not tell you something that they want to be kept quiet.
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Richard,
I don't think that was his point. Those who insist on operating in secrecy invite skepticism about their motives, that's all. That's the way I took the quotes.
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Why skeptical about it? I have clearly stated why I did not reveal the name of the person. And his quotes were mostly about a government operating in secrecy, not an individual who wanted to honor a request from a friend.
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Not skeptical about your reasons, I clearly understand that - you gave your word. Reread my post.
It's not that important, I've already decided I'm not cut out for the cloak and dagger world of autograph collecting. Best, Jeff
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Your friend wants to remain anonymous so that he/she is not held accountable for their actions.
Simple as that. If you gave your word, you ought not tell anyone, as that would be a violation of their trust. The "anonymous EMR'r" on the other hand, should make themselves known so that they can be correctly applauded for their good works and answer for their bad choices. |
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As to answer for their bad choices. I have a question. Can you tell me from your own experience was anything been taken down that had any effect on you? If so could you post the link. |
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Why don't you tell us what steps you have taken to help clean up the hobby so we can applaud or criticize you as we see fit?
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You know my name because its posted above each of my messages.
Applaud or criticize as you see fit. Not sure how it's relevant to this particular discussion though. Quote:
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You can pick a debatable case here or there... but the fact of the matter is that the items EMRs report the most are mass-produced forgeries being sold by sellers who are sometimes part of organized forgery rings. Rings from the west coast, a ring from Chicago, a ring from Japan and on and on. In other words -- professional criminals. You want your name available to these people so they can call you at night? Maybe they'll mention where you live and talk about your kids photos on your wife's Facebook page. Or maybe you'll end up on a list on some scummy anonymous smear site. Or maybe you'll be named in a groundless lawsuit that will still cost you lots of money to make go away. You got it now?
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