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Old 05-16-2013, 05:36 PM
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C,

Interesting.

Looks like a strip to me.

Another tell-tale sign that this is a strip, is that it appears all 5 cards were on the bottom, not top, four rows of the eight row sheet. This is highly unlikely to have occurred randomly.

There is a 50/50 chance of each player being on the bottom of a sheet. We have firmly confirmed that two players, Brown (Portrait) and Bowerman were on the bottom of the sheet - there was a 25% chance of this being the case randomly. Also, there is the fact that, despite tremendous searching over the years by collectors, for a "WAGNER, PITTSBURGH" on another card, none have been found. This is likely because none existed, though scarcity of the card as an arguable rationale is reasonable. but I think the likelihood is, it is because none existed, because the Wagner cards were located on the bottom of the sheet. The fact that the other two cards on the strip - Kling and Cy Young (Portrait) - that their names also have not been found on any other card also lends support to all 5 cards being on the bottom half of the sheet. The odds of 5 cards randomly being found on the bottom of a sheet is about 3%.

The odds are incredibly high that the five cards are likely found on the bottom half of the sheet because this strip is an accurate representation of their placement on the sheet next to one another on the bottom half.

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C, I cannot believe all the great work you did putting together the verticals. Very exciting. I think we should try to put together the 150 series sheets, using only the Sweet Caporal and Piedmont 150 series verticals that have been found, and incorporating the horizontal 150s, and test strip 150s. For the 150 series, only talking about 75 vertical sets of 2 cards. horizontal will be more challenging. But hopefully there will be overlap help. I would propose 4 top rows and 4 bottom, but I understand others have proposed 3 top rows and 3 bottom, and think both 8 and 6 row arguments are reasonable. though I would lean toward 4 each because of the great numbers of same card verticals versus dual player verticals. J

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Old 05-16-2013, 06:04 PM
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And then someone's gotta print them.

To start (and maybe to end for the time being), we might compile a proposed 34-different-card sheet (136 cards) - a first T-206 sheet - containing the Wagner, Magie error, put Plank in, do the best we can.

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Old 05-18-2013, 06:29 AM
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Updated chart, with regard to the card above Bowerman.
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Old 05-18-2013, 06:58 AM
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According to T-206 Resource, the cards that were issued only as part of the 150 series, and may have been above Bowerman, if not Chance (Red), are:

Ames, Red (Hands At Chest)
Brown, George (Chicago)
Brown, Mordecai (Cubs On Shirt)
Burch, Al (Batting)
Donlin, Mike (Fielding)
Doyle, Larry (Throwing)
Evers, Johnny (Cubs On Shirt - Blue Sky)
Pattee, Harry
Pelty, Barney (Horizontal)
Powers, Mike
Reulbach, Ed (Glove Showing)

(Wagner and Magie error as well were 150 series only, but have been accounted for here)

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List of 150 series cards only - added above.
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:24 PM
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Schulte should really be on that list, there's only one copy with a 350 back. I'm thinking that's actually technically a wrongback, in that it was never intended to come with 350 but a sheet or two got used and released somehow.

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