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[packs]

Well if that's really true then how come no other country on earth has the amount of shootings the US has? More mass shootings this year than days.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by packs

Well if that's really true then how come no other country on earth has the amount of shootings the US has? More mass shootings this year than days.

Because most of them had gun confiscations along with gun bans. There's a difference between a confiscation and a ban. Ok, impose a ban! Big deal? That doesn't eliminate the millions that are already in the hands of individuals. That's my point. Now, if you want to impose a confiscation, that's a different story. It would be a civil war in this country - literally.

[packs]

These shootings are a blight on America. We should be disgusted with them. Clearly banning weapons is an effective way to reduce gun violence. Just look at Britain. Don't be obtuse and suggest there are no solutions to curbing mass shootings. Even if someone uses a different weapon and kills just one less person, that one less person is worth saving. You're uncomfortable with someone telling you that you can't have something. That doesn't mean more people need to die just because you don't like being told no. Get a different type of gun and move on.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by packs

Clearly banning weapons is an effective way to reduce gun violence. Just look at Britain.

That's a blanket statement without all the facts. Of course it stands to reason that the US has more gun violence than Britain - because we have MORE guns. Duh! They have less guns because they started enacting gun legislation in the early 1900's. America did not. If Britain had the amount of firearms in their hands that the US has, they would have a gun violence problem as well.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Another question for you. I'm sure you'll ignore this one too as you always do, but I'll ask anyway.

If banning drugs doesn't resolve the drug problem, how would banning guns resolve the gun problem?

It seems to me that if someone wants to use drugs, they have no problem finding them. Don't you think if someone wanted to get a gun (for the sake of argument, let's just assume they're all banned), do you think they would have a a problem finding one? It's always been my experience that if someone wants something bad enough, they'll find a way to get it - illegal or not.

[packs]

If its your position that if a law can be broken it shouldn't be a law, then why do we have laws at all? Every law has been broken. So does that make them senseless?

Also, I don't need to be the one to come up with some singular solution so I have no idea what it is that you're trying to say when you keep asking me questions and expecting me to have some end all solution. Your line of thinking and reasoning is inherently flawed and that makes you incapable of having a meaningful conversation.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by packs

If its your position that if a law can be broken it shouldn't be a law, then why do we have laws at all? Every law has been broken. So does that make them senseless?

No, that's not my position. I'm just smart enough to know that banning guns isn't a solution and doesn't eradicate the problem. It doesn't address the millions of guns that are already in the hands of individuals. You just keep spewing your stupid rhetoric and refuse to address that point.