Most over-valued card

[Billy5858]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

I'd have to go with the Mantle because it is no longer available to a lot of us.

I realize it is an iconic card in the industry, but it price level should NEVER have reached the Wagner neighborhood.

Let's say there are 60 known Wagner cards in existence...how many '52 Mantles are there? Several thousand? I have no idea.

Now, I realize that a lot of you guys put them in your bicycle spokes ,
but give me a break...

Honorable mention now goes to the M116 Sporting Life - Smoky Joe Wood, a PSA-7 copy of which just sold for $1,925- give me another break.

The Wood card was one of only seven personal white whales I was still looking to land...the Mantle has long since been removed...for realism sake. I will continue to search for a Wood in EX graded condition, but I am not very optimistic.

I bid on that Wood card in the early stages.................Then it took off....Just forget it. I bailed

[granite75]

I'll go with Jordan's rookie.

[irv]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

1952 Topps #311.

No way!

I think the current, Rose RC is a bit much, but that's just my opinion.

[BeanTown]

1993 Finest Refractors!

[celoknob]

All PSA 9 and 10s.

[bcbgcbrcb]

All T206 "errors".......

[JustinD]

Logic completely dictates it would be the double printed 1952 topps Mantle.

Not even the true rookie and should be valued in the same range as the 51 bowman. Yes, those that have them will say no, but there is nothing but hype supporting those values and that is most certainly not a foundation of stone to hold up investment.

[the 'stache]

Again, respectfully, I have to disagree. Strongly. And I don't own the card.

Mantle is one of the ten greatest offensive players in the annals of Major League Baseball. He was the star for the most successful professional franchise in American sports history, in the biggest metropolitan area in America, at a time when television was exploding, and that team was still winning World Championships. Every kid in America wanted to be the Mick. Fathers named their kids after him. Women threw themselves at him. The Commerce Comet was ripped, charming, if not a little soft spoken initially, and looked like a movie star.

Take all those factors, and then consider that the biggest baseball card company of them all, Topps, made its major set debut in 1952. The 1952 Topps set is to vintage what the T206 set is to pre-war. And Mantle's card was the set's lynchpin.

Oh, and it was short-printed.

Originally Posted by JustinD

Logic completely dictates it would be the double printed 1952 topps Mantle.

Not even the true rookie and should be valued in the same range as the 51 bowman. Yes, those that have them will say no, but there is nothing but hype supporting those values and that is most certainly not a foundation of stone to hold up investment.

[pcoz]

Mantle was an iconic figure and his 52T legendary for the hobby, but there are 2000 graded and over 11000 rumored to be printed...11k!!! If a 7 Mantle goes for 225-250k, then the Ruth RC in a PSA 7 coming in Heritage should be 750k, with probably 75-80 Ruth's graded(some crossed). Clemente's RC is insane too, how can a PSA 8 which was 12k two years ago now go for what a Ruth PSA 4 goes for, 150k!!!! I'm a pre-war guy and have a Ruth, with no interest in the Mantle, so I'm a little biased, but I'm trying to be logical. I'm just astounded that the post war cards that are in tremendous supply are going for these INSANE prices. Can't imagine there are that many more who don't have one already going to bid up cards with populations in the thousands for years to come. Great for the hobby if it happens!

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

Oh, and it was short-printed.

That would depend on your perspective.

The high series sheet did have a lower print run, however there are three double printed cards on that sheet: mantle, J. robinson and bobby Thomson.

I still stand by it, there simply are hundreds of more difficult cards to own and several even of Mick. The Dice Game card should be worth twice the 52 by logic. The 52 is a hype machine because of its draw to non collectors that buy them as investments and investors are a fickle crowd.

Yes, it has always held value and should for that icon reason, not for rarity. But 10s of thousands I will not scoff at. hundreds of thousands? Ridiculous.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

Again, respectfully, I have to disagree. Strongly. And I don't own the card.

Mantle is one of the ten greatest offensive players in the annals of Major League Baseball. He was the star for the most successful professional franchise in American sports history, in the biggest metropolitan area in America, at a time when television was exploding, and that team was still winning World Championships. Every kid in America wanted to be the Mick. Fathers named their kids after him. Women threw themselves at him. The Commerce Comet was ripped, charming, if not a little soft spoken initially, and looked like a movie star.

Take all those factors, and then consider that the biggest baseball card company of them all, Topps, made its major set debut in 1952. The 1952 Topps set is to vintage what the T206 set is to pre-war. And Mantle's card was the set's lynchpin.

Oh, and it was short-printed.

I always understood the DP listed next to Mantle, Jackie and Thomson to mean Double Print.

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by irv

No way!

I think the current, Rose RC is a bit much, but that's just my opinion.

You should make that picture your new avatar.

[pokerplyr80]

I still think the 52 Topps Mantle will keep going up, quite a bit from current levels. If I had enough money I would be buying more.

There are a couple of rookies that have recently went nuts that I think will come back down.

[JTysver]

'68 Ryan Rookie.
It was valued at $25 until the mid 80s and took off with the Card Boom of the late 80s. Its a very common card also.