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Old 04-20-2021, 10:59 AM
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I like the composition of your Speaker card - too bad that's not Cy Young or Ed Cicotte in the background. I wonder why your Plank card has that big bottom border - compared to the cut of other cards? Also interesting how the Speaker card has those decorative dots just to the left of the name - I don't believe any of the other cards have that. Would be interesting to know more about the 796 set - I think the set is a real diamond in the rough.
So my question on the background, what in the world in that player holding behind his back? Its white and looks like he is purposely hiding behind him, looks odd to me?

No idea on the symbol, only card in the set that has it. And the Plank border, again, the only card in the set that has it. It looks like the image was cropped too short and they just said screw it.

I posted this on the 805 thread last night, but the 796s look like a "rough" draft of sorts for the 805s. The company moved in 1910 and found themselves next to the photo business. The 796s have so many fonts including multiples within the same card, names on the top and bottom, weird symbol in front of Tris, weird border on Plank and then that all was cleaned up on the 805s and the NC Co. was added as well. The only non-uniformity on the 805s is the names, having some players with front and last but most with just last. 805s didnt correct the spelling of Honas either for some reason.

Plus the postmark on a 796 in 1910 while 805 is 1911...even though there is just 4 of them. IDK, 796s just seem like a rushed rough draft of what the 805s became with the nice border applied and uniformity, wonder why they blurred out some of the backgrounds though?
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Default 1910 Novelty Cutlery postcards

Has anyone done a deep research dive on the connection of Vignos & Hurford Photography and the production of the NC postcards?
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Has anyone done a deep research dive on the connection of Vignos & Hurford Photography and the production of the NC postcards?
They were making cabinets by the 1890s...

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Novelty Cutlery was founded in 1879 by Augusts Vignos. Lost right arm in Civil War. Farmer, Janitor, Postmaster of Canton. Novelty became famous for "transplant-handled" knives which were invented by Henry and Reuben Landis also of Canton.

Cutlery was at 67 Barr Street in 1910, later moving to 515 McGregor Avenue in 1928. Vignos died in 1925 and the firm passed to son Alfred. Stopped making knives in 1948.

Interesting that Vignos was a photographer prior to the Cutlery business and had an photography studio adjacent to his Novelty Cutlery plant. See attached postcard, lower left (no longer my postcard).
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Here's another fun photo.
Canton’s first letter carriers with Postmaster Augustus Vignos, 1882. Front, from left: James C. Shoop, John Ryan. Standing: Alvin Hurford, David Pletcher, Randolph G. Garber, Augustus Vignos. Boy on the porch is Ralph Shoop. Courtesy McKinley Presidential Library & Museum, Canton, OH

Cleraly Vignos & Hurford were close. Also a 1903 photo taken in front of the post office where they worked together. May have even been taken by them. Photos are not mine.
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Here's another fun photo.
Canton’s first letter carriers with Postmaster Augustus Vignos, 1882. Front, from left: James C. Shoop, John Ryan. Standing: Alvin Hurford, David Pletcher, Randolph G. Garber, Augustus Vignos. Boy on the porch is Ralph Shoop. Courtesy McKinley Presidential Library & Museum, Canton, OH

Cleraly Vignos & Hurford were close. Also a 1903 photo taken in front of the post office where they worked together. May have even been taken by them. Photos are not mine.
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Vignos and Hurford started their photo business together by this point I believe.

Interesting way to take the picture so it blocks Vignos missing limb he lost in the war.
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So my question on the background, what in the world in that player holding behind his back? Its white and looks like he is purposely hiding behind him, looks odd to me?
I do not think he is hiding anything behind his back. It is some sort of canvas or cloth pouch. You can the the leather strap slung over to his right shoulder and under the bat.
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I'll get off the 796 train and go with the Big Train on this...love this card even though its 1910. Some cards feel more like a piece of history to me and this is one of them.
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I'll get off the 796 train and go with the Big Train on this...love this card even though its 1910. Some cards feel more like a piece of history to me and this is one of them.
Wow! Nice card - that one sure got my attention!
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Steven, That has to be one of the coolest postcards ever. I love that pose of the Weiser Wonder. So stoic.
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Near the top of my list for WaJo cards. It will come as a surprise to those familiar with the Weiser studio portrait that there is an alternate pose, uncovered in the research for my book and posted here for the first time.
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Hank - someone on facebook was inquiring as to what you think of Craig Kreindler's take on 'The Weiser Wonder'?.


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Hank - someone on facebook was inquiring as to what you think of Craig Kreindler's take on 'The Weiser Wonder'?
Here is Graig Kreindler's "Weiser Wonder" painting.
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And that is an absolutely beautiful painting Kevin...
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WHOA! Wow, that is just...

Can I ask, where was that found?

Thanks for showing this...wow!
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