Gun ownership poll

cannonballsun · #1 06-08-2022, 12:41 PM

I own no guns.
Statistically, you or a member of your family is more likely to be killed or injured by a gun if you own one than if you don't own one.
That's enough for me.

Mark17 · #2 06-08-2022, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cannonballsun

I own no guns.
Statistically, you or a member of your family is more likely to be killed or injured by a gun if you own one than if you don't own one.
That's enough for me.

Statistically, should the need arise, you are virtually defenseless.

cannonballsun · #3 06-08-2022, 03:39 PM

The chance anyone would have to defend themself with a gun (in a holdup or something like that) is very small. I can't think of anyone I know that had to do that.
I did have a coworker commit suicide with a gun. I did have another coworker who almost shot his son in the middle of the night. His son had forgot his keys and snuck into the house. It was a really close call.
I did have another coworker who was shot and killed by his wife. I don't know the details on that. The rumor was he was abusive to his wife, but I don't really know.
I had another coworker get loaded and stoned and go to his mother and father in laws house to pick up his daughter. They wouldn't give him his daughter (as he was drunk and stoned), and he started waving his gun around and put a few bullets in the walls or floor. Thankfully he didn't shoot anybody, but he spent over a year in jail. If his in-laws had a gun, he would probably be dead now.
By now you're thinking, what kind of place do I work at. There are a lot of people that work there, probably over 500. Anyway, guns are dangerous, beyond a doubt.

Leon · #4 06-08-2022, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cannonballsun

The chance anyone would have to defend themself with a gun (in a holdup or something like that) is very small. I can't think of anyone I know that had to do that.
I did have a coworker commit suicide with a gun. I did have another coworker who almost shot his son in the middle of the night. His son had forgot his keys and snuck into the house. It was a really close call.
I did have another coworker who was shot and killed by his wife. I don't know the details on that. The rumor was he was abusive to his wife, but I don't really know.
I had another coworker get loaded and stoned and go to his mother and father in laws house to pick up his daughter. They wouldn't give him his daughter (as he was drunk and stoned), and he started waving his gun around and put a few bullets in the walls or floor. Thankfully he didn't shoot anybody, but he spent over a year in jail. If his in-laws had a gun, he would probably be dead now.
By now you're thinking, what kind of place do I work at. There are a lot of people that work there, probably over 500. Anyway, guns are dangerous, beyond a doubt.

That is your opinion and everyone is entitled to theirs. I don't think guns kill, I think people do. And I would rather have the option of defending myself, with a gun, in my own home than not having the option.
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cannonballsun · #5 06-08-2022, 04:28 PM

I really can't argue with your opinion. It is a valid point of view

Mark17 · #6 06-08-2022, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cannonballsun

I did have another coworker who was shot and killed by his wife. I don't know the details on that. The rumor was he was abusive to his wife, but I don't really know.

Neither of us knows, but it could be that he was trying to kill her and the gun saved her life.

My point is that guns can be used for different purposes, and a gun in the hand of someone being violently attacked can save an innocent person's life. There are two sides to it and it all comes down to the person, not the gun itself.

G1911 · #7 06-08-2022, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cannonballsun

Anyway, guns are dangerous, beyond a doubt.

I notice that in all four of these incidents no gun discharged itself of it�s own volition. People choose to do things, and some people make terrible choices (though it�s not clear to me the wife one was necessarily in this category). People make bad choices with all manner of tools. One is more likely to be bludgeoned to death with a heavy object than to be killed with any kind of rifle (mostly what the regulators and banners want to regulate and ban).

A friend of mine was stabbed in a street robbery a couple years ago. Was that the fault of the criminal who chose to rob and stab him, or of the knife itself? I think almost everyone would say the person who did the stabbing.

Guns themselves are extremely safe (some collectors pieces from long ago are a different story), and have numerous safeties that eliminate any chance that they will discharge without a person putting their finger on the trigger and pulling it.

Criminals will commit violent crime with any tool at hand, legal or otherwise, as history shows us. I don�t see how a responsible citizen being permitted to defend themselves should they be the victim makes the world or society less safe instead of more safe. Places swamped with guns are often the safest places. There has never been a crime committed at my sportsman�s club.

jimjim · #8 06-09-2022, 06:30 AM

Disregard

irv · #9 06-09-2022, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cannonballsun

I own no guns.
Statistically, you or a member of your family is more likely to be killed or injured by a gun if you own one than if you don't own one.
That's enough for me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cannonballsun

The chance anyone would have to defend themself with a gun (in a holdup or something like that) is very small. I can't think of anyone I know that had to do that.
I did have a coworker commit suicide with a gun. I did have another coworker who almost shot his son in the middle of the night. His son had forgot his keys and snuck into the house. It was a really close call.
I did have another coworker who was shot and killed by his wife. I don't know the details on that. The rumor was he was abusive to his wife, but I don't really know.
I had another coworker get loaded and stoned and go to his mother and father in laws house to pick up his daughter. They wouldn't give him his daughter (as he was drunk and stoned), and he started waving his gun around and put a few bullets in the walls or floor. Thankfully he didn't shoot anybody, but he spent over a year in jail. If his in-laws had a gun, he would probably be dead now.
By now you're thinking, what kind of place do I work at. There are a lot of people that work there, probably over 500. Anyway, guns are dangerous, beyond a doubt.

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