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Old 12-24-2022, 10:24 AM
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55 hocus focus is a tough call
I would say there probably are somewhere around 50 total out there
Al has 21 himself, +other private collections
Probably are more than 50 but I don't know where they are
There's more to Hocus Focus than the Baseball Stars. Even the small #97-126 cards not issued in the larger size would have more than 50 known overall, but it's part of a compete set of 126 as well and they were all printed at the same time on the same sheet.

Speaking of Hocus Focus, anyone got a front and back scan of the Gehrig? I have a low-res front scan and nothing for the back.
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Old 12-24-2022, 11:29 AM
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Good point on hocus focus...that is a subset
So definitely more than 50 1955 hocus focus cards
Meadowgold I've seen more than 10 complete boxes
So more than 50 total is easy
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Old 12-24-2022, 12:04 PM
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How about the 1959 Kiwanis Baltimore Orioles clinic set? I'm not sure how many are out there, but I can't seem to find the last 5 that I need.

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So what would be the rarest TOPPS issue?

1955 Topps Hocus Focus?
1955 Topps Stamps?
1961 (1963) Topps Dice Game?
1966 Topps Punchouts?
1970 Topps Cloth?

Could someone rank them?

For my Cardinals collection I have all (both) of the Hocus Focus, but I have none of the others listed above. I also do not have any 1967 Topps Standups, but my understanding is that they are not are rare as those above? Could someone confirm this?
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depends on how u want to rank
known examples?
dice games about 25 and uncut sheet of 18
55 hocus focus baseball about 50
55 topps stamps maybe 20
66 punchouts about 25
70 cloth very few
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1971 Topps Rookie Proofs
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Possibly the 1949 Lummis Peanut Butter set? The pop reports show 19 for PSA and 8 for SGC = a total of 27. I don't have an example to show.
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depends on how u want to rank
known examples?
dice games about 25 and uncut sheet of 18
55 hocus focus baseball about 50
55 topps stamps maybe 20
66 punchouts about 25
70 cloth very few
Since Larry names the Topps Dice Card set as the rarest Topps set shouldn't anyone who has any graded examples resubmit them to PSA /SGC to change the flip to 1963 since it has been proven by the Groat card with the Cardinals that they were issued well after 1961? Would they change the flips?

Would the TPG companies change the records too to reflect they are 1963?
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This is a really fun thread. Definitely strikes my fancy since there are literally hundreds of vintage boxing cards with fewer than 50 known examples from the issue and I am a boxing card type collector.
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Since Larry names the Topps Dice Card set as the rarest Topps set shouldn't anyone who has any graded examples resubmit them to PSA /SGC to change the flip to 1963 since it has been proven by the Groat card with the Cardinals that they were issued well after 1961? Would they change the flips?

Would the TPG companies change the records too to reflect they are 1963?
Ongoing discoveries coupled with the lack of a universally recognized hobby guide has resulted in many vintage sets, checklists, etc. not being recognized properly, in whole or in part.
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